Harris & Clemence
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Buddha
Vital Football Hero
22 points from 36 ain't so bad. We currently have 26 from 54.
I was against his sacking at the time.
Could see why many didn’t like his defensive minded football, but with the players we had it was the best way to get results.
Lizardprime
Vital Youth Team
As far as I can recall Asaba missed almost the entirety of our promotion season with a groin injury. I don't mean to nitpick and this is just from memory so someone can correct me if I'm wrong but it was quite a defining feature of that season that we were so worried about his absence and ended up scoring so many even without him.
nibbles
Vital Football Hero
I was largely happy to sweep the pre-Galinson period under the rug as a completely different assignment with different tools and expectations.
It was an assignment he failed but I didn’t feel it had much bearing on his chances of success in the Galinson era assignment.
PuB
Vital 1st Team Regular
The pre-January form would have seen us relegated with a record low points and goals tally
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nibbles
Vital Football Hero
Yes, didn’t appear in the league until his comeback up at Preston at the end of February bagging two goals from the bench.
Last game he and SBT played together was the Man City PO Final.
Buddha
Vital Football Hero
Yes, I was too. I reckon he'd have got us at least into the play offs, possibly better.
This division is shit. It's not about stylish or entertaining football. It's about getting results any way you can, often in a manner that really ain't pretty. We've got to scrap to get out of this shit. Being defensive, keeping clean sheets and winning lots of games 1-0 is a pretty good formula for gaining promotion.
I love watching free-flowing attacking football - especially when both teams adopt that style - with lots of goals being scored. And that's how I love my Gills to be - the way they were when I fell in love with them (Sir Keith era, obvs). But that can't happen in this division (not for a sustained period and/or with any consistency). That has to come later, when we're a top-half third division team. For now, all that matters is getting promoted.
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Dradley's Back
Vital Reserves Team
Not very often say this Buddha but on this point I think that you are spot on!
I watched Salford on Saturday and I think they have all the tools to be in the promotion box come May. They are physical, dirty and narky but in possession they can play decent attacking football.
Wins are what matter now - let's save the pretty football for League 1.
Buddha
Vital Football Hero
You should listen to me more, DB, I'm often right. (though not always). Nibbles will confirm this (unless he is feeling mischievous, in which case he won't).
ARFUR CONNELL
Vital Squad Member
Sorry Buddha, but Nibbles is always right - he told me.
Buddha
Vital Football Hero
I know. And that's why i'm confident that he'll confirm that I am often (but not always) right.
Once he has confirmed this there can be no further debate.
If he fails to confirm it then it'll open the way for a debate about whether or not he actually is always right...
nibbles
Vital Football Hero
Confirmed.
Incorrect. No subject should be precluded from ongoing debate. It’s a slippery slope to removal of our freedom of speech. Very disappointed in you, Buddha.
Incorrect. This subject is not up for debate.
GillsBluenose
Vital Champions League
Took us down? In League One?
Selective memory, We were 23rd and about 10 points adrift after the Fatman had cleaned Scally out and he put Fish in charge to find a buyer. Harris took over and we finally went down on goal difference after Kelman got sent off and suspended leaving us with an unfit Oliver as our only striker.
But....what Shotshy says.
GillsBluenose
Vital Champions League
Fair dos, I think you are right, but that was also the season Super Bob left at Christmas so I was referring to the previous season and a half.
I was just using them as an example as they developed such a good understanding and were a nightmare for defenders when fit and firing for a spell.
Buddha
Vital Football Hero
GillsBluenose
Vital Champions League
To be fair to Lark, I distinctly remember we had 19 points from 11 games (possible 33) so we must only have had 6 league wins when NH departed, not 7.
MB reached that 19 point figure in just 8 games which was outstanding.
The problem is that he has only achieved 7 from the following 10 league games.
That form stretched over a whole season would also have almost certainly seen us relegated with a record low points tally. And that after such a higher financial outlay.
Cody and Bayo had a pretty good understanding/partnership for us long since then.
We haven’t had too many other good strike pairings though.
Eaves and Oliver scored decent numbers for us at different times but don’t recall them being partnered by anyone regularly in particular. Oliver had Jordan Graham setting him up during the Covid season, Eaves was one of the few bright sparks of Pennock’s reign in charge .
Yes you’re right it was only six league wins, I think I counted the win over Leyton Orient by mistake which was in the Trophy competition.
Keith Millen as caretaker then got his first league win immediately after Harris left at home to MK Dons.
You Can see the results here if you cycle back to 2023:
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