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You need the points more than we do, so to be honest I am not that bothered about the result of this game.A draw I feel will be the outcome.
 
Sorry Dave, but West Ham to me are a smaller club than the likes of Sunderland, Chelsea and Carlisle. We should be battering teams like West Ham especially after they've just been promoted. The fact we're praying for a result shows how much this lot from down your way have destroyed us.
 
Officemonkey - 4/5/2013 03:48

Sorry Dave, but West Ham to me are a smaller club than the likes of Sunderland, Chelsea and Carlisle. We should be battering teams like West Ham especially after they've just been promoted. The fact we're praying for a result shows how much this lot from down your way have destroyed us.

And you feel that you are a bigger club than the ones you mentioned ? Since you last won a trophy we have won 3 FA Cups Runners up once, the European Cup Winners Cup,The League Cup and a few mickey mouse European trophies, both Newcastle and West Ham are big clubs but only in the sense of their massive support not in the terms of their success. If you measured in terms of success over the past say 50 years in a table format Chelsea would be top, West Ham second,Sunderland third and Newcastle propping up the bottom with Carlisle United.

It is statements like "we should be battering teams like West Ham " that have people calling you deluded etc. The proof is in the records and in recent history according to those records we are a bigger club than Newcastle are.
 
On this day 39 years ago I was on the train going to the capital for the FA cup final. Unlike then, I hope we show up this time!
 
Don't confuse bigger with more successful. Luton, Coventry and Oxford have won a domestic trophy since we last did and I wouldn't call them bigger clubs. I like West Ham as a club because they are a proper working class club unlike Spuds, Chelski and the Arsewipes. You will murder us today so don't worry. We are a heartless bunch of fuckers with a clueless manager.
 
vin1892 - 4/5/2013 08:17

Don't confuse bigger with more successful. Luton, Coventry and Oxford have won a domestic trophy since we last did and I wouldn't call them bigger clubs. I like West Ham as a club because they are a proper working class club unlike Spuds, Chelski and the Arsewipes. You will murder us today so don't worry. We are a heartless bunch of fuckers with a clueless manager.

Vin, I am not confusing bigger with success ,we are both only big because we have massive support, thousands and thousands of gullible blokes like us ,it is OM who reckons that you are a big club I was just pointing out a few facts like.
 
Mcnamee67 - 4/5/2013 08:17

On this day 39 years ago I was on the train going to the capital for the FA cup final. Unlike then, I hope we show up this time!

I was 2 yrs old Mc lol

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No other team in the country could go as long as we have without a trophy and still get crowds of fifty two thousand.
 
Nufc_Ben - 4/5/2013 08:29

No other team in the country could go as long as we have without a trophy and still get crowds of fifty two thousand.

And what has that got to do with anything Ben ? Big club in terms of support only mate. And I reckon the Yids, Gooners, Chelsea ,Liverpool, both Manchester clubs would also get crowds like that success or not on a regular basis, Arsenal get huge crowds and haven't won anything in years either.
 
CockneyMagic - 4/5/2013 08:32

Nufc_Ben - 4/5/2013 08:29

No other team in the country could go as long as we have without a trophy and still get crowds of fifty two thousand.

And what has that got to do with anything Ben ? Big club in terms of support only mate. And I reckon the Yids, Gooners, Chelsea ,Liverpool, both Manchester clubs would also get crowds like that success or not on a regular basis, Arsenal get huge crowds and haven't won anything in years either.

My point is other fans call us deluded for thinking we are a big club, we have won nothing but we have the best support in the country and are entitled to expect a lot more than we have actually got since we last won a trophy.
 
You are a massive club Ben as I pointed out in this thread but only in terms of support not in success, same as my lot, I think our away travel is amongst the highest in the country, todays game is the 17th successive sell out at home, neither of us will ever compete with the likes of Manure unless a miracle happens. A good season for me is a good cup run and a top half table finish.And for the record Newcastle haven't got the best support in the country.In the top six ok !
 
You don't win trophies for big crowds, maybe if people stopped going it would make a succession of horrible chairman think twice before taking the piss out of supporters.
 
Paul Kannell - 4/5/2013 08:58

You don't win trophies for big crowds, maybe if people stopped going it would make a succession of horrible chairman think twice before taking the piss out of supporters.

That is what needs to be done Paul a boycott hit the bastards where it hurts most, Fatman will constantly milk your huge fanbase, it is such a cashcow for him, the porno kings have sold our home our from under our feet ,will make millions on redevelopment and yet we have happy clappers loving our move to the Olympic Stadium as tenants. It wont happen though mate.There will be a queue that takes half an hour to get to the club shop at ours today to throw the ***** even more money.
 
Officemonkey - 4/5/2013 11:46

Aren't we the 7th or 8th most successful club in the country?

You possibly are , using football's complete history as your guideline.
In the same respect - haven't Sunderland won more league titles than you?

And surely , saying that you "should be beating the likes of West ham" makes you sound deluded ..or arrogant.
No-one has the devine right to beat anyone - or to stay in the premier league - as you found out in 2009
 
Depends how you look at it, with the squad we have, we should be beating newly promoted clubs. Most established top flight teams would expect that. Battering them, perhaps not, but it does show how fare we've fallen that we're praying for a result rather than expecting it.
 
Toon_Demon - 4/5/2013 12:08

Depends how you look at it, with the squad we have, we should be beating newly promoted clubs. Most established top flight teams would expect that. Battering them, perhaps not, but it does show how fare we've fallen that we're praying for a result rather than expecting it.

Based on Pardew's bullshit reasons for us being where we are, he said we are establishing ourselves after being promoted.

Well these have just been promoted so that hoys his shite logic down the pan.

If we get a performance today, it will be because the players want to do it for the fans, not as a result of doing anything different in training.

Also, all this my dad's bigger than your dad is a load of shite because a lot of it is just situation.

Man City are up there because of Arab money.

Chelsea are there because of Russian money.

Arsenal and Spurs are there because they are in London and over the years, that's where the money's been at, which in turn attracts different managers, players, sponsors and what not.

In theory, the history records shouldn't really count many honours won before the turn of the 20th century because there wasn't that many teams and history alone in the world of football as we know it, only started in 1992 with the invention of Sky, so loads of us are potless.

Success in my eyes isn't determined by a money grabbing 'pretendy loyal' footballer holding aloft a piece of metal but how a team makes you feel inside and as far as im concerned we've had our European cups and trophy wins in certain era's, more notably the Keegan mid 90's years and the Sir Bobby Robson stint.

It's that quest that keeps me going and hopefully we see the day where the regime fucks off from here and takes the organ grinder with them, so we witness many more 'triumphs' again.
 
We've been relatively big in recent times too... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11096/7773572/The-20-year-table