Going to the toilet during lessons

Miss Villa

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I teach year 2 and don't let children go to the toilet during lessons. Would you have a problem with this rule for your child?
 
Yes I would if they genuinely needed to go to the toilet I can understand regular abusers not being allowed that's fair enough.Are you telling me you would cross your legs if you were bursting.
 
Actually as a teacher I do have to hold on.
The children go no longer than a couple of hours without a break and should have no problem holding their wee for that length of time.
 
What about if they have got the shites and too scared to say in front of the whole class.
 
Miss Villa - 14/11/2017 12:15

Actually as a teacher I do have to hold on.
The children go no longer than a couple of hours without a break and should have no problem holding their wee for that length of time.

Are you comparing an adults bladder control with that of children?
 
An ill child shouldn't be at school, children who have a toileting problem should have a note.

A girl asked a few minutes after 1 last week.(lunch ends at 1) I refused as she should have gone then. Despite asking 3 times and claiming she was desperate she held on until hometime (3.15)
 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 14/11/2017 12:29

Miss Villa - 14/11/2017 12:15

Actually as a teacher I do have to hold on.
The children go no longer than a couple of hours without a break and should have no problem holding their wee for that length of time.

Are you comparing an adults bladder control with that of children?

They get ample time at playtime and lunchtime. It was gator who mentioned would I like to have to cross my legs, teachers do wait too was all I was saying.
 
Can you not become i'll whilst your at school?
Really don't think you are looking at the bigger picture here and if a child does have an accident whilst in your care you could be opening yourself up to all kinds of shite here as this would become an hygiene issue.
 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 14/11/2017 12:37

If it's not too much trouble, what prompted you to start a thread on this subject?
Yeah I'm becoming a bit suspicious here.
 
Well, there's your answer. Surely there are guidelines on this anyway? And if there is just one complaint, you've failed in your job.

I think it's cruel and almost abusive behaviour, personally.
 
For children to stay healthy, they need to drink water regularly throughout the day. They also need to empty their bladder and bowels regularly and fully when the need first arises. Children need open access to fresh drinking water; as inadequate fluid intake may lead, consciously or unconsciously, to toilet avoidance. There are occasions when children will need to ‘hold on’ before they can visit the toilet, but repeated prolonged delays can cause distress and health problems. Holding on can lead to constipation, which in turn can result in soiling, or they could experience bladder/urine infections. For some children any delay is impossible. Each child’s bladder and bowels are individual and their bladder and bowel capacity are very variable, function to their own timetable and will differ according to a multitude of variable factors. A child’s timetable is therefore unlikely to conform to the school’s timetable. Learners may not have the opportunity to go to the toilet between each lesson and there may be long periods in the school day without a break. In Lifting the lid on the nation’s school toilets, the Children’s Commissioner found that 35 per cent of respondents said that it was difficult to get permission to use the toilets during lesson times. Restricting toilet access to set times encourages ‘I’ll go just in case’ practice which may contribute to ‘small-bladder syndrome’. Emptying the bladder before it is full can reduce capacity and means the bladder does not get used to holding on until it is full. This can create problems such as needing to go more often during the day and night, and having to get to the toilet in a hurry to prevent accidents. At the same time, the amount of fluid a child can drink before needing to go to the toilet is reduced. Learners may also avoid emptying their bowels at school. This can be due to a lack of privacy, poor toilet conditions, and not enough time to use the toilet. Locks are essential for privacy and if missing, will contribute to toilet avoidance. Toilets that are in a poor state and in need of refurbishment and more frequent cleaning may be more likely to attract poor behaviour. School toilets can become an adult-free zone. It is important that learners feel safe to use toilet facilities at all times and staff and learners should work to develop strategies to ensure this is achieved.

From guidance, you should have your own copy although admittedly that's 2015's version.

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What age are year 2 children?

I think adults forget that children should be children. Of course they are a bit stupid at times, forget to go to the loo etc.

If you have a repeat 'offender' then maybe put your foot down, but to me expecting a kid to hold on AND concentrate is not on and would actually make them resentful.

It's not that big a deal to let a kid out for a wee. If they start taking the... err... pee then that's different.

Kids are meant to stay hydrated and their bladders don't hold that much,that long.

I always found the strictness and pettiness of teachers ridiculous when I was at school.
 
Thanks, Mike. I've just been reading some horror stories of children wetting themselves in front of their classmates, or being punished for asking to go.

I didn't even know it was a thing, until today.
 
The Fear - 14/11/2017 13:21

What age are year 2 children?

I think adults forget that children should be children. Of course they are a bit stupid at times, forget to go to the loo etc.

If you have a repeat 'offender' then maybe put your foot down, but to me expecting a kid to hold on AND concentrate is not on and would actually make them resentful.

It's not that big a deal to let a kid out for a wee. If they start taking the... err... pee then that's different.

Kids are meant to stay hydrated and their bladders don't hold that much,that long.

I always found the strictness and pettiness of teachers ridiculous when I was at school.

6/7, they wouldn't need a wee if they went at break.

The girls and boys toilets are next to my class so they should pop in on the way out to break and lunch or when they return.
 
I'm a teacher and I think you are way out of line. You can't expect a six year old to hold in a full bladder for hours.

Either this thread is a wind up or you are unsuitable for teaching young children.
 
Is year two six year old age then?

If so, wow! I'd not expect them to concentrate for two hours let alone hold their bladders for that long.