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Gazza

At first i had sympathy, but now i don't, i think he is a disgrace to be honest. People paying loads of money to send him out to America and he starts drinking a pint at the airport.

In the end addicts can only help themselves. He is too far gone.

Fog on the tyners all mine all mine, fog on the tyners all mine come on.
 
However as you will know that the alcohol would have caused problems to the rest of the body so I am surprised that any Dr would have said it was O.K to drink..

I did have a look at what they said and they said complications with the anti-rejection meds. Complications can mean anything I suppose and a simple sum up way
 
The problem with Gazza is he has been enabled to repeat his drinking by people who thinking they are helping him but aren't. He has had too much help and pandering too that he thinks he is special and different and he isn't. The cemeteries are full of people who thought they were special and different

Some people just can't get honest enough to get recovery
 
So are we finally agreed Bestie pegged it because he wouldn't take his essential meds, rather than he destroyed his new liver with booze?
 
I feel sorry that he has an addiction.

However he was very privileged that he had the means to actually get the best help around. It's now his own fault for being in this mess and I don't feel sorry for him.

What annoys the fuck out of me though is this...

Collymore has mental illness problems and suffers badly at times, when he isn't suffering he is helping those with the same problems.
He ONCE hit Ulrika Johnson. One time.
He is HATED and labelled a women beater.

Gazza is a drunk, he helps no one and he repeatedly beat his wife and admitted it himself.
Yet he is loved and cherished by the nation?

How the hell does that work?

Because he could kick a ball better than Stan?


 
James06 - 7/2/2013 22:28

So are we finally agreed Bestie pegged it because he wouldn't take his essential meds, rather than he destroyed his new liver with booze?
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I don't know! Are we :17:
 
Gazza gave me the best summer of my life.


Although it was beaten a few years later by Michelle Ward.
 
kefkat - 7/2/2013 22:38

James06 - 7/2/2013 22:28

So are we finally agreed Bestie pegged it because he wouldn't take his essential meds, rather than he destroyed his new liver with booze?
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I don't know! Are we :17:
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I'm leaning very much towards glensider. I think you need to let it go carol.
 
I have nothing to let go of James. He didn't die just because of refusing to take anti rejection meds. I do know that.

I am not saying he didn't refuse/neglect/or there was complications with the anti-rejection meds. It is stated there were complications however to say alcoholism had nothing to do with it is plain daft as it did.

Nothing more to say than that
 
kefkat - 7/2/2013 20:25

However as you will know that the alcohol would have caused problems to the rest of the body so I am surprised that any Dr would have said it was O.K to drink..

I did have a look at what they said and they said complications with the anti-rejection meds. Complications can mean anything I suppose and a simple sum up way
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Alcohol wont cause problems to the rest of the body Kefkat, I'm not sure what you mean. Not in moderation it wont.

I drink. I drink in moderation. It hasn't harmed me, nor will it harm any other liver transplant recipitant.

My doctors/specialists are aware I drink. They've never told me not to. There would be absolutely no reason for them to say that.

You possess a healthy functioning liver, as opposed to the unhealthy unfunctioning liver you possessed pre transplant surgery. The only difference is that you have to, for the rest of your days, take anti-rejection meds, differing quantities for different patients.

I'm not making anything up, I'm not stating a pack of lies. I know what I'm talking about, because I'm living it.

Re your comment about what 'they' said, namely 'complications with the anti-rejection meds', yes, complications, as in not taking the damn things.

Again, I'm not making up porkies to keep anyone amused, I'm telling you the absolute 100% fact. Best died from failure to take the prescribed doseage of prograf, nothing to do with a return to heavy alcohol consumption.

All too often he was taken to task by the liver transplant clinic because his bloodwork showed a zero reading for prograf.

I know, because as I said previously, no less than the operating surgeon told me, and he's not going to mislead me, just as I have no reason to mislead you.
 
James06 - 7/2/2013 22:28

So are we finally agreed Bestie pegged it because he wouldn't take his essential meds, rather than he destroyed his new liver with booze?
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I bloody well hope so James
 
kefkat - 7/2/2013 22:38

James06 - 7/2/2013 22:28

So are we finally agreed Bestie pegged it because he wouldn't take his essential meds, rather than he destroyed his new liver with booze?
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I don't know! Are we :17:
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We'd damn well better be kefkat. Banging me fucking head against a brick wall here.
 
I still believe alcoholism as I know it was involved however I take your point re meds on board also

That I will leave it there as it is not worth getting into an argument about.

I know where I am coming from re alcoholism because I have recovered from it and it's kind of hard to explain as we are both coming from different directions on this
 
Agreed, 'not worth getting into an argument about'.

If you know better than the surgeons, specialists, and liver transplant clinic who treated him then any further discussion is pointless.
 
glensider - 8/2/2013 13:16

Agreed, 'not worth getting into an argument about'.

If you know better than the surgeons, specialists, and liver transplant clinic who treated him then any further discussion is pointless.
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Regarding addiction side yes I would say I do know more than them! As I said we are coming at this from different angles
 
It's just a very sad situation to watch someone you idolised as a child to be in such decline.

My sympathy goes to him and his family.
 
kefkat - 8/2/2013 17:20

glensider - 8/2/2013 13:16

Agreed, 'not worth getting into an argument about'.

If you know better than the surgeons, specialists, and liver transplant clinic who treated him then any further discussion is pointless.
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Regarding addiction side yes I would say I do know more than them! As I said we are coming at this from different angles
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Talk about the female of the species having to have the last word.

You're in the wrong profession kefkat. You need to be a liver specialist, earning the huge cash.

We aint talking about the addiction side of things in relationship to best. We are talking about the reason for his death.

His death wasn't down to any continuing addiction. It was due to failure to comply with the need for daily anti-rejection medication.

I thank you.
 
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