Gay Marriage vote in Ireland this Fri, have your say.

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Ireland is poised to become the first country to legalise gay marriage by public vote – but the historic referendum has been marred by accusations that the “no” campaign is being bankrolled by evangelical Christian groups in the US.

A poll by the Irish Times has indicated that the measure to introduce gay marriage, backed by all the main political parties, has the support of 58 per cent of the population, compared to just 25 per cent against and 17 per cent undecided.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/irelands-antigay-marriage-no-campaign-taking-donations-from-evangelical-us-christians-10258086.html
 
The final nail in the coffin of the Catholic Church in Ireland or a chance for the Catholic Church to felt its shrinking muscles?
 
The interesting thing about a ref on such issue - is that in the public eye, people will shout for equality. Yet behind closed doors and when sitting thinking about it privately, they could decide on a no.
 
Green Tea - 18/5/2015 22:07

The interesting thing about a ref on such issue - is that in the public eye, people will shout for equality. Yet behind closed doors and when sitting thinking about it privately, they could decide on a no.
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I think you are right. I'm sure there are a lot of people in Ireland who don't want to express anti-gay feelings and the yes voters are more than happy to express their opinion to anyone who will listen.

I think the vote will be closer than the polls say because of all the silent no voters and also because I think no voters are more motivated to vote.

Still, who gives a shit? Unless you are gay, it's got nothing to do with you.
 
Being neither gay nor Irish I'm not sure that my opinion has any real validity.

For what it's worth though, my personal belief is that marriage is (or should be) a religious matter with everything else being a civil union that gives the same legal rights as marriage. Of couse churches and religious leaders should not be forced to preside over ceremonies that they disagree with but that should apply to all unions, hetrosexual included.



 
Green Tea - 18/5/2015 13:07

The interesting thing about a ref on such issue - is that in the public eye, people will shout for equality. Yet behind closed doors and when sitting thinking about it privately, they could decide on a no.
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Civil partnerships are already recognised and this is just another domino... The no vote crowd are either still believes or stuck in the past...

In the next couple years I expect all LGBT equality rights to be enacted in Ireland...

As mentioned a nail in the religious coffin and I welcome it...
 
Tomorrow is voting day, and I'm voting a big YES.

I'm not gay, I don't have any close gay friends, but it's not the point. If two men or two women want to marry, it's none of my fucking business. It doesn't affect me. Who gives anyone the right to deny these people?

The church in this country is almost dead and I'll piss on it's grave. I actually don't know one religious person, from my family to my friends to random people I meet. Who's keeping this shit going??

As the honorable Trent Reznor once said....."God is dead, and no one cares...."



 
My opinion is that this extremely divisive €20 million referendum is completely unnecessary. It is the Irish government's job to legislate on Same Sex Marriage. It was in the Labour Party's manifesto. However, like so many previous administrations, when the going got controversial, they chickened out.
We have had several abortion referenda foisted on us; none has satisfactorily sorted out the issue. One of the reasons for this is that it is ultimately the Supreme Court that decides what the Constitution actually means. We keep getting told that this is "only about civil marriage". Well, we'll see.
As I'm currently temporarily in the UK, I don't get to vote; now, there's a true example of inequality! However, I would vote "no". In case anyone thinks I'm a Luddite, I would also point out that when we had the divorce referendum some years ago, I voted to have the prohibition taken out of the constitution. Likewise, when we had the first abortion referendum, I voted against it. I'm not particularly in favour of divorce (but it just happens to be necessary for some people) and disagree in principle with abortion except for a few defined exceptions. I thought having a blanket prohibition in the constitution was wrong. I was proved right for it went totally pear-shaped. I read in the "Irish Independent" yesterday that there may be a FOURTH abortion referendum after the General Election next year....
I just think that the constitution is not the place for statements on divorce, abortion or same-sex marriage. We pay the legislators to do just that and this is another cop-out on their part.
 
I think it's good that we all seem to being moving into a more understanding society on what people want to do with there lives, really amazes me how there is such more major issues to tackle in our countries and yet this simple question ''should two people be allowed to be together cos they want too as other marriages in history'' how is this even debated tbh thinking about it,,,,but we am learning and in time i do believe religion in our countries will back down properly and accept this fully cos they will have too too have any chance to survive
 
I think debates that come such as from this are a good thing as it opens peoples eye to more and hopefully people learn something..
 
They are saying the turnout will be around 40%. It seems like most people really just don't give a shit.
 
BodyButter - 22/5/2015 17:42

They are saying the turnout will be around 40%. It seems like most people really just don't give a shit.
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I wouldn't believe any stats that they throw out.

Off topic but during the recent Water Charges protests, RTE News said there was 10,000 people on the streets, when actually there was near to 100,000.

It's also being reported that 1.5 million people have signed up to pay the tax, which is complete bullshit.


 
SJH, Irish Water is in its death throes and will be given a pauper's funeral after the General Election next year.
 
Who cares if two gays or lesbians or whatever want to get married! It has absolutely nothing to do with me or effect me in anyway shape or form. Good luck to them
 
Exactly Skeggy dude, as long as they made me Gay Cake i would be chuffed too bits for em and my best wishes!
 
BBJ - 22/5/2015 18:51

SJH, Irish Water is in its death throes and will be given a pauper's funeral after the General Election next year.
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I hope so BBJ, they're talking about taking the money out of people's wages, bank accounts and welfare payments. Desperate thieving bastards.

I can't wait to see the back of this government and their corporate cronies. I'd be happy to see them dragged out of their houses and shot in the streets.


 
I think it is despicable that the no campaign have used children in the manner they have. Posters with "Children deserve a Mother and a Father" have been widely used. Children deserve a loving family, and that's it.

Evil bastards implying that Gay parents are inferior.

Mind you, this is quite funny:-

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/couple-denounce-use-of-their-image-on-no-campaign-posters-1.2203515

The man and woman featured in posters opposing the same sex marriage referendum have denounced the use of their image and say they support “completely” the proposed change to the Constitution.
 
"if you say you love somebody, you have to do it". A Catholic father on voting yes, because he says he is equal to his other children, and deserves equal rights.

It was quite emotional watching the interview with him. What a wonderful father.
 
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