Gay Cake?

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BodyButter

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There is a court case happening in Northern Ireland because a bakery refused to make a Bert and Ernie cake with a pro-gay marriage message on it.

I'm not against gay marraige but surely people have the right to refuse business if they don't want it?

If the court rules against the bakery, where do you draw the line? Could they be sued for not being open at 3am when I want my cake? How about if they were too busy but I want my cake from them anyway? How about if I wanted a hair cut and they refused?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/19/belfast-high-court-to-deliver-verdict-on-bert-and-ernie-gay-cake-case
 
Is this what they were asking for?

[img=http://blogs.villagevoice.com/forkintheroad/gaywedding.jpg]

 
I must order a Gay cake for my man Club dude, he ay speaking to me thesedays, a big pink and fluffy double cream filling should get him back round :17:
 
For curiosities sake, I headed over to the Thesaurus to see what it said about the word 'gay. Whilst giving words of it's ''original'' meaning of happy etc. I found out some interesting stuff, I thought I would share with you, as below.

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The meaning “homosexual” for the word gay has become so prevalent that people hesitate to use the term in its original senses of “merry, lively” and “bright or showy.” But the word's association with sexuality is not new. The word gay has had various senses dealing with sexual conduct since the 17th century. A gay woman was a prostitute, a gay man a womanizer, a gay house a brothel. This sexual world included homosexuals too, and gay as an adjective meaning “homosexual” goes back at least to the late 1930s. After World War II, as social attitudes toward sexuality began to change, gay was applied openly by homosexuals to themselves, first as an adjective and later as a noun. It is no longer considered slang. Today, the noun often designates only a male homosexual and is usually used as a collective plural: gays and lesbians . Usage as a singular noun is uncommon and is sometimes perceived as insulting: He came out as a gay. In contrast, gay in the sense “awkward, stupid, or bad” is often used with disparaging intent and perceived as insulting to gay people. Though some have argued that this sense is independent of the “homosexual” sense, and therefore not homophobic, the argument is weakened by the fact that “homosexual” has long been the dominant meaning of gay, and thus permeates its other usages.

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/gay?s=t
 
Yeah lol i learnt that Gay means happy when old Frank used to come whistling into the office at my old work singing what a gay day,,,,for ages i used to look at hime weird and one day i asked him why he says that and he learnt me it means happy lol,
 
It's a difficult one this is. On one hand you can't refuse a customer based on sexual orientation, race, gender etc, but then if you are making something surely it is your own discretion as to whether you want to make it or not.

Did the bakery refuse to serve that customer because he was gay, or did he refuse to put that specific message on the cake? If it was that they were happy to serve them but didn't want to put that message on the cake then where do you draw the line? surely freedom of speech works both ways - you are allowed to say what you want but you are equally allowed to refuse to say something you don't agree with?

I wouldn't be surprised to see this moving up the courts
 
I persoanlly think its daft as custom is custom tbh, but ion this politically correct world we live in and law this court that sue this etc i just think money is money and the shop should just shut up and serve cake tbh
 
I think the bakery lost because they went down the wrong route of saying it is their religious right as their defence - I disagree that religion should be above the law, and I think most people do too, so on that basis they deserved to lose.
 
Yeah its like me saying to VOTN dude i won't serve you cake cos you am such a fussy so and so and hate things spelt incorrectly and too mush of a perfectionist,,,,,you know what i mean ;)
 
As long as nobody hurting anybody then we should allow freedom of choice. In which case, if a baker doesn't wish to associate themselves with homosexuality - then they should be free to have that viewpoint.
 
Yeah GT dude but lets be honest the baker wouldn't be catching gay-itus would he....would he?? :)
 
Yes but it could be against his/her personal morals/beliefs. I have had this chat before with Heath, that homosexuality came before most religions, yet it was scorned upon. If it was not problem in humanity from how we evolved, then why would humanity invent it to be a problem? Homosexuality poses no threat to anybody does it? So over time when we came from apes and the male ape was screwing the male ape etc - where in the cycle and why in the cycle did it become a sin? And you can't blame religion as its become scorned upon in many different cultures across the world. If it was completely healthy and had no issues why during the course of human evolution did we attach negative vibes to the practice(which over time and eventually gets picked up by religions).
 
If I was a Baker and someone asked me to make a cake with "Birmingham City are the greatest" on it, I'd point blank refuse.

if this straight Baker has been asked to make a cake with "Sucking cock is heavenly" on, then I don't blame him for saying no really.
 
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