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Full Disclosure & UFO's

True Heath, but again, in fairness, no one is screaming "aliens"!

He says in his personal belief that aliens could have visited here, that's fine with me, I would agree that aliens COULD have visited here, I don't know.

I have seen him in a few TV interviews and the interviews are tainted as you said, but I feel that comes more from the interviewees who are acting like big excited children who just want him to say it's aliens.
 
In the Mirror interview, he says "In my opinion, if this was a court of law, we have reached the point of 'beyond reasonable doubt'. I hate to use the term UFO but that's what we're looking at." when talking about aliens. That is not true in any sense of the definition of proof, and the headline is misleading as well.

None of these people do the credibility of UFO research or alien hunting any good. Even if he was right now, I just wouldn't take anything he says seriously.

 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 27/12/2017 00:51

I spent some time on a US right wing site the other day trying to convince them that just because a party is called The National Socialist party, it doesn't necessarily have socialist values. Apparently the Nazis are now left wing. Who would have thought it?

Evidence didn't play a large part in their thinking.

Americans are never going to be allowed to look too deeply into what fascism is.
 
Stephen Jay Hawkings - 26/12/2017 16:49

The existence of UFOs has been proved. Whether they are alien or not is the question.

The existance of UFOs has never been doubted by anyone who understand what a UFO is, in fact I'll take it a stage further and say that all flying objects are UFOs until they are identified.

 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 26/12/2017 16:51

I spent some time on a US right wing site the other day trying to convince them that just because a party is called The National Socialist party, it doesn't necessarily have socialist values. Apparently the Nazis are now left wing. Who would have thought it?

Evidence didn't play a large part in their thinking.

If you asked any of them, which of these was the communist and which of these was the democratic half of Germany before the Berlin wall came down, I wonder how many would get it right: Deutsche Demokratische Republik( German Democratic Republic) and Bundesrepublik Deutschland (Federal Republic of Germany)

 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 27/12/2017 10:30

Ian they didn't even know Jesus was Middle-Eastern. That would just confuse them more!!!!

Mexican?

 
Lets see if we can get this thread back in service

Pay Attention: Here Is Your Truth About Aliens And Ufo's From A Man Who Better Than Anyone Had Seen The Truth For Himself


This is an email released via WikiLeaks from Edgar Mitchell, Apollo Astronaut, to John Podesta, with a view to Obama making Disclosure, sent in 2014:

Source: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15052

*Re: Apollo Astronaut, Dr. Edgar Mitchell’s, Request for Meeting to
> discuss Disclosure*
>
>
>
> Dear John Podesta:
>
>
>
> As we move into the last half of 2014, the need for extraterrestrial
> disclosure intensifies. Thank you for your kind consideration and response
> to my email.
>
>
>
> This 4 July weekend I will meet with President Obama’s friend, Ambassador
> Hamamoto, at the US Mission in Geneva during their Independence Day
> Celebration. While in Geneva I will also speak at the UN and the European
> Space Agency regarding why we must move forward with disclosure and
> specific programs such as manned moon missions, since some scientists and
> others are calling for moon colonization due to what they perceive is
> happening on Earth.
>
>
>
> John, with this email I am requesting a conversation with you and
> President Obama regarding the next steps in extraterrestrial disclosure for
> the benefit of our country and our planet.
>
>
>
> Fifty years ago Battelle, Brookings and RAND studies on UFOs convinced the
> government to remove knowledge of the extraterrestrial presence from the
> citizens of our country. These organizations advised with their best
> information. However, today much, if not most, of the extraterrestrial
> reality they examined is known by our citizens. These organizations'
> resultant strategies and policies of 50 years ago no longer hold
> credibility or benefit.
>
>
>
> Five decades of UFO information have dramatically shifted the public
> awareness of an extraterrestrial presence. And yet, our government is
> still operating from outdated beliefs and policies. These are detrimental
> to trust in government transparency, science, religion, and responsible
> citizenry embracing the next step in our country’s space travel and
> research.
>
>
>
> Three disclosure issues are prominent: 1) planet sustainability via next
> generation energies such as zero point energy, 2) galactic travel and
> research undertaken as an advanced species aware of the extraterrestrial
> presence, not as uninformed explorers who revert to colonialism and
> destruction and 3) the example of a confident, engaged government who
> respectfully regards the wisdom and intellect of its citizens as we move
> into space.
>
>
>
> I respectfully receive your response to my request for conversation on
> disclosure.
>
> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
>
>
> Edgar D. Mitchell, ScD
>
> Chief Science Officer & Founder, Quantrek
>
> Apollo 14 astronaut
>
> 6th man to walk on the Moon
 
Undoubtedly the 'nothing to see here' element is now counter productive and far more would be achieved with honest acknowledgement. It would help quell some of the more crazy ideas on line if the official stand point changed as well.

It would admittedly give rise to new conspiracies as for some 'we don't know' as an answer would never be enough, but it would take the sting out of the more extreme views I think.

There is also the benefit of changing the official stand point to attract qualified scientific enquiry and discourse on the subject so we didn't just have those with an agenda spouting bollocks as science, the odd few trying to be serious but end up discredited by association and so on.

That said, the 50 year comment is out of whack given Roswell which truly kick started things and it's not the greatest letter as it has an inbuilt bias and justification as evidence by the first two points which are presented as fact when they patently aren't - it reads like a fishing expedition in many ways. I can also see vested interests in terms of Military flight tests if the stand point changed and so on.
 
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Great video discussion regarding past Presidents use of time capsules

There is talk of Trump opening Nixons White House time Capsule in another episode

 
Sightings by 3 different pilots off the south west coast of Ireland.

The Irish Aviation Authority is investigating reports of bright lights and UFOs off the south-west coast of Ireland.

It began at 06:47 local time on Friday 9 November when a British Airways pilot contacted Shannon air traffic control.

She wanted to know if there were military exercises in the area because there was something "moving so fast".



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46181662
 
Sightings by 3 different pilots off the south west coast of Ireland.

The Irish Aviation Authority is investigating reports of bright lights and UFOs off the south-west coast of Ireland.

It began at 06:47 local time on Friday 9 November when a British Airways pilot contacted Shannon air traffic control.

She wanted to know if there were military exercises in the area because there was something "moving so fast".


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46181662


Interesting but I doubt if we'll hear any more about it.
 
Interesting but I doubt if we'll hear any more about it.

That's the thing, we rarely do. There has been a lot of these sightings from pilots recently. This one confirmed by 3 different pilots.

Falling stars etc. don't really make any sense from the descriptions. If it was the US or somewhere you could guess top secret military shenanigans, but off the west coast of Ireland?

I'll have to follow the investigation closely to see what might come of it. They'll probably say it was a weather balloon, lol.
 
That's the thing, we rarely do. There has been a lot of these sightings from pilots recently. This one confirmed by 3 different pilots.

Falling stars etc. don't really make any sense from the descriptions. If it was the US or somewhere you could guess top secret military shenanigans, but off the west coast of Ireland?

I'll have to follow the investigation closely to see what might come of it. They'll probably say it was a weather balloon, lol.



I'll await your feedback then SJH....

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