Fossil jawbone

Juan Mourep

Juan Mourep

Vital 1st Team Regular
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-03-04/fossil-jawbone-helps-shine-light-on-early-humans/?

Thousands more years of human history now awaits to be discovered following the discovery of a human jawbone dating back almost three million years.

The lower jaw uncovered in Eithiopia pushes back human history another 400,000 years and is the oldest known evidence of a creature descended from apes belonging to the genus Homo - the family of mammals that includes modern humans.

It has been dated to 2.8 million years old, and provides crucial clues to the changes in jaw and teeth that distinguished the Homo lineage from the more primitive and ape-like Australopithecus.


 
I take it that you believe the date to be eronious GT?


 
Do you know what, i was was watching a documentry on the Discovery channels the other night and they have human footprint right beside a dinosaur???? And modern science can't explain it, now we am finding things like this jaw bone makes me wonder how old our species really am and how long we have been on this planet, have we been here for millions of years and died off and come back starting over etc etc makes me wonder you know.
 
Villan Of The North - 7/3/2015 11:34

I take it that you believe the date to be eronious GT?
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I prefer to use the words "changeable".

I don't like the way we are told one thing as a certain(and all the kids are taught it at school), only for it to "change" at a later date and nobody bats an eyelid. Yet if this was religion, people are shouting from the rooftops how bad it is to teach kids such stuff.

So when exactly did man come from monkey again? What is the exact date science tells us? Or is it all a bunch of bullshit(make it up as we go along)?

And you wonder why I don't listen to em! At least I'm consistent!
 
As Science obtains more evidence it updates itself, the more information we have, the more accurate we can be, I don't see the problem.

And yes, you are certainly consistent.

 
You don't see a problem teaching facts, that then change with later evidence?

If the perimeters can keep changing, then the text books should state such. Instead of saying "Man didn't live with dinosaurs"...It should state "we think man didn't live with dinosaur".

In other words it's based on a thought....NOT a fact!

 
ClivetheVillan - 7/3/2015 18:49

Do you know what, i was was watching a documentry on the Discovery channels the other night and they have human footprint right beside a dinosaur????
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:2: ....... You'll probably find he was taking him walkies.......


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If you don't want absolutes taught then I suggest a better formulation would be, "Evidence points to/suggests/leads us to believe" or, "There is good evidence for" or even, "Our observations/calculations show" and finally, "From this we conclude".

All of the above allow for possible error and/or for new information/evidence to change the conclusions, whilst not living in the world of "I believe this because I choose to". We have to teach that which we have the best evidence for whilst acknowledging the fact that not only do we not know everything but we are also falible.

Religion and science do not need to be enemies and, in the hands of sensible, open minded people, actually make quite good bedfellows.

 
Villan Of The North - 7/3/2015 14:29


Religion and science do not need to be enemies and, in the hands of sensible, open minded people, actually make quite good bedfellows.
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:1: :1: :1: :1: :1: All things entwine
 
ClivetheVillan - 7/3/2015 11:49

Do you know what, i was was watching a documentry on the Discovery channels the other night and they have human footprint right beside a dinosaur???? And modern science can't explain it, now we am finding things like this jaw bone makes me wonder how old our species really am and how long we have been on this planet, have we been here for millions of years and died off and come back starting over etc etc makes me wonder you know.
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You were watching Jurassic Park Clive, put the mescaline down son :17:
 
Clive was watching the same as me, and it wasn't Jurassic Park!

I'm with you on that Clive, they are not the only one's either, along with ancient engravings of dinosaurs, obviously academia is having a hard time with this and putting it down to natural erosion, can't be re writing the history books can we.


 
ahh arse gravy for the hard of understanding.

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Starts with decent scientifiic discovery and becomes delusional drivel - so sad
 
Green Tea - 7/3/2015 13:53

You don't see a problem teaching facts, that then change with later evidence?

If the perimeters can keep changing, then the text books should state such. Instead of saying "Man didn't live with dinosaurs"...It should state "we think man didn't live with dinosaur".

In other words it's based on a thought....NOT a fact!
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Science is not based on facts. It is based on our current understanding. I've explained this before, but you seem to have forgotten.
 
ClivetheVillan - 7/3/2015 11:49

Do you know what, i was was watching a documentry on the Discovery channels the other night and they have human footprint right beside a dinosaur???? And modern science can't explain it, now we am finding things like this jaw bone makes me wonder how old our species really am and how long we have been on this planet, have we been here for millions of years and died off and come back starting over etc etc makes me wonder you know.
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If you look for the evidence, then modern Science can explain these. It's a case of wanting to believe, or wanting to learn. There are a number of good analyses out there for this. They aren't even hard to find.
 
Juan Mourep - 7/3/2015 22:25


Clive was watching the same as me, and it wasn't Jurassic Park!

I'm with you on that Clive, they are not the only one's either, along with ancient engravings of dinosaurs, obviously academia is having a hard time with this and putting it down to natural erosion, can't be re writing the history books can we.
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Yep that was defo the same doc i watched Juan dude, how the heck would ancient humans from thousends of years ago know exactly how a stegasaurus and triceratops look like? Them engravings they made in stone of dinosaurs we in the last 100 years have only just leanred what the bones we find of dinosaurs look like,,,,so how am ancients supposed to know this?

Something happend on this earth and we was wiped out almost entirely and we started again, that or we am older than we can imagine as a species or not even from here through genetic tampering,,,,there is some possibilities that i know sound ''OTT'' to some dudes but there is just no explanation how people from ancient times knew about the things and built some things as they did, like even the titukamen etc places the stones am so precise we would struggle today to cut them so accurate so how did ancient people cut stone so accurate? :69:
 
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ClivetheVillan - 7/3/2015 11:49

Do you know what, i was was watching a documentry on the Discovery channels the other night and they have human footprint right beside a dinosaur???? And modern science can't explain it, now we am finding things like this jaw bone makes me wonder how old our species really am and how long we have been on this planet, have we been here for millions of years and died off and come back starting over etc etc makes me wonder you know.
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If you look for the evidence, then modern Science can explain these. It's a case of wanting to believe, or wanting to learn. There are a number of good analyses out there for this. They aren't even hard to find.
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No i agree there is some scientific explanations on some things defo, but look at some of them ancient buildings and carvings etc makes me wonder you know, i watched a doc on Discovery on some stone ancient ruins in South America and science can't explain how accurate they cut the stone, we am led to believe they only had chicken bone etc lol they used precision engineers gauges to measure the gap in between the stones and they was astonished as we would struggle to cut so accurate today with modern tools etc, defo something we have lost or something happend,,,my honest gut feeling Heath dude, not whacky out there stuff :17:
 
They aren't dinosaur etchings. Dinosaurs have a different hip structure than other reptiles, and the carvings don't show this. They are more like Chameleons than a Dinosaur.
 
Could be as there is no size gauge etc to the carvings, but still not convinced by the ancient structures found from thousends of years ago and are cut smooth and so precise, they had NASA experts try and explain this and was unable to explain laffin saying we would struggle to cut the the titukamen (spelt similar lol) and other structures mentioned today let alone thousends of years ago,,,,, maybe we was hit by floods asteroids or wars etc and we started over you know,,,,,not impossible imo
 
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