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jeffs right
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Foul by Morsy.
formbylatic
Vital Squad Member
Not a game Morsy will want to remember - he was at fault for both goals.
I agree cracking match and we are playing our best football for years. Should have been out of sight by half time.
I agree cracking match and we are playing our best football for years. Should have been out of sight by half time.
Kenny Morris
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Referee gave us nothing and allowed Forrest to bully and intimidate right from the off and get away with numerous niggley fouls.
Then, because of poor referee's decisions it lead to the trouble with Vaughan and disrupted our concentration.
He then allowed himself to be intimidated by the Forrest players to give a penalty, which was very soft.
Having said that 2 poor decisions by Morsy cost us 2 points today
Then, because of poor referee's decisions it lead to the trouble with Vaughan and disrupted our concentration.
He then allowed himself to be intimidated by the Forrest players to give a penalty, which was very soft.
Having said that 2 poor decisions by Morsy cost us 2 points today
Martinez1986
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yes should of been three or four by half time how big was that goalie
king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
That was never a penalty for me either live or watching it back. Ref seemed hell bent on 'evening it up' after he gave us a pen and should've sent their man off for deliberate foul to stop goal scoring chance - he was a disgrace.
We were superb but robbed today. Again nothing to fear in this league once we iron out our mistakes and we stop having so much bad luck.
We were superb but robbed today. Again nothing to fear in this league once we iron out our mistakes and we stop having so much bad luck.
formbylatic
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Referee was pants today and an embarassment to his profession.
Just listened to Paul Cook’s post match interview and agree with everything he said.
We are a joy to watch and if we keep playing like this we will win more than we lose and how good is Antonee Robinson!
Just listened to Paul Cook’s post match interview and agree with everything he said.
We are a joy to watch and if we keep playing like this we will win more than we lose and how good is Antonee Robinson!
formbylatic
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Crap attendance today btw
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Got to be happy with the way we are playing, someone will get an almighty tanking if we keep creating the chances like we are! Some of our moves are a joy to watch!
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Played well again, just need to take our chances when they arrive. Already this season we have seen the resilience of championship teams.
Can't give Cook enough compliments of how he's approached this season so far. The football on display is excellent.
Thought Kipre had a really solid game, shutdown one of the best strikers in the league along side Dunkley.
We might need to do something to protect the gaps that the fullbacks leave when they go forward. We looked a little exposed in the wide areas a few times today. Other than that we looked really strong.
One negative is bringing Vaughan on to see a out a game, that doesn't look effective at all. Was the same against Villa.. He looks better being brought on behind the striker to run and chase the play. His hold up play is very poor.
Can't give Cook enough compliments of how he's approached this season so far. The football on display is excellent.
Thought Kipre had a really solid game, shutdown one of the best strikers in the league along side Dunkley.
We might need to do something to protect the gaps that the fullbacks leave when they go forward. We looked a little exposed in the wide areas a few times today. Other than that we looked really strong.
One negative is bringing Vaughan on to see a out a game, that doesn't look effective at all. Was the same against Villa.. He looks better being brought on behind the striker to run and chase the play. His hold up play is very poor.
Made in Wigan
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Another entertaining afternoon of football but very disappointed not to take all three points.
I like Morsy but I'm afraid he was culpable today and two errors cost us the game. Im sure Cook is quickly realising that individual mistakes at this level will likely lead to goals by the better quality opposition and failure to be clinical ourselves will haunt us. I appreciated the effort and quality on show and it's so different to the last two torturous seasons at this level.
I agree with the above about the referees performance, it was absolutely atrocious. I appreciate the law has changed around red cards for penalties but I understood that if there was no genuine attempt to get the ball then it was still red if a clear goal scoring opportunity. For me that criteria was hit so given that I'm unsure why it wasn't a red - hopefully someone can correct me if my law interpretation is wrong. The fact he then faffed around after awarding it, appearing utterly clueless as to what to do, creating confusion which set the tone for the afternoon. After that he didn't seem to have a clue about what was a foul and what wasn't. The 'handbags' toward the end was as a result of this clown failing to get a grip. The Forest penalty he only made his mind up after being surrounded and hounded. It was utterly pathetic and quite frankly a disgrace to his profession to allow himself to be bullied and influenced in such a way, whether or not it was a penalty (on 1st viewing I think it was though yet to see replay). No doubt we try that on Wednesday and we'll have 3 booked. I hope the club send in the appropriate feedback about his piss poor officiating.
I like Morsy but I'm afraid he was culpable today and two errors cost us the game. Im sure Cook is quickly realising that individual mistakes at this level will likely lead to goals by the better quality opposition and failure to be clinical ourselves will haunt us. I appreciated the effort and quality on show and it's so different to the last two torturous seasons at this level.
I agree with the above about the referees performance, it was absolutely atrocious. I appreciate the law has changed around red cards for penalties but I understood that if there was no genuine attempt to get the ball then it was still red if a clear goal scoring opportunity. For me that criteria was hit so given that I'm unsure why it wasn't a red - hopefully someone can correct me if my law interpretation is wrong. The fact he then faffed around after awarding it, appearing utterly clueless as to what to do, creating confusion which set the tone for the afternoon. After that he didn't seem to have a clue about what was a foul and what wasn't. The 'handbags' toward the end was as a result of this clown failing to get a grip. The Forest penalty he only made his mind up after being surrounded and hounded. It was utterly pathetic and quite frankly a disgrace to his profession to allow himself to be bullied and influenced in such a way, whether or not it was a penalty (on 1st viewing I think it was though yet to see replay). No doubt we try that on Wednesday and we'll have 3 booked. I hope the club send in the appropriate feedback about his piss poor officiating.
NYC_LATICS
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Kipre and Dunkley both had very good games. Robinson had a few good moments going forward but should take some fault for letting his man beat him leading up to the penalty (which I thought was the right call after rewinding my live stream and watching again). 2nd half was a bit disappointing overall. We never seemed all that close to a 3rd goal.
jeffs right
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Around 9000 home fans isnt bad, vast majority being season card holders. We are not going to get many more home fans through the gate all season.
king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
MIW is correct it should've been red as it was a deliberate foul to stop goal scoring chance rather than genuine attempt at tackle.
Here is penalty video. Didnt think it was a pen when it happened and watched it back few times and haven't changed opinion. Looks like he changed his mind after Forest kicked off, shocking.
Here is penalty video. Didnt think it was a pen when it happened and watched it back few times and haven't changed opinion. Looks like he changed his mind after Forest kicked off, shocking.
jeffs right
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Never a penalty into memory of man.
OnLoanfromEnfield
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Lots to mention but I will keep it brief.
Watched a steward get floored over in the North West corner of the Stadium. I hope he is ok after that unwanted experience. It looked like a punch to the head but I was over on the opposite corner of the stadium.
Easy to spot though .... a big bloke in a black t-shirt and shorts, his wife in pink / salmon t-shirt and shorts plus two children were "escorted" out of the stadium by police and stewards.
Gawd knows what went on to merit that incident.
Have to say that I am loving this season so far, Nick Powell getting into the head of the goal keeper in the first minute ... followed up with the goal. What a player to watch ... sh!t housing at its finest (amongst his other fine footballing skills).
A game plan that takes the game to the opposition, right from the get go. Superb stuff. Forest reverted to hoof ball .... urgh.
If the coaching staff can get the players to sort out the mental errors then we might have a team that are capable of getting into the playoffs. 7 goals scored .... great ... 7 conceded not so good.
Nathan Byrne getting into the game and replacing Gavin Massey (did well again) ... I wonder if he will continue to play higher up the pitch ?
Highlights
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/11475875/wigan-2-2-nottm-forest
Watched a steward get floored over in the North West corner of the Stadium. I hope he is ok after that unwanted experience. It looked like a punch to the head but I was over on the opposite corner of the stadium.
Easy to spot though .... a big bloke in a black t-shirt and shorts, his wife in pink / salmon t-shirt and shorts plus two children were "escorted" out of the stadium by police and stewards.
Gawd knows what went on to merit that incident.
Have to say that I am loving this season so far, Nick Powell getting into the head of the goal keeper in the first minute ... followed up with the goal. What a player to watch ... sh!t housing at its finest (amongst his other fine footballing skills).
A game plan that takes the game to the opposition, right from the get go. Superb stuff. Forest reverted to hoof ball .... urgh.
If the coaching staff can get the players to sort out the mental errors then we might have a team that are capable of getting into the playoffs. 7 goals scored .... great ... 7 conceded not so good.
Nathan Byrne getting into the game and replacing Gavin Massey (did well again) ... I wonder if he will continue to play higher up the pitch ?
Highlights
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/11475875/wigan-2-2-nottm-forest
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Grigg slight knock and Powell was knackered,you know he very rarely manages 90 minutes!!
Overall I would rate the performance of the referee as upsetting. After the last 12 months of the League One standard I had fooled myself (like I had done before our last venture to the second division) that the standard of officials would improve. Alas, this is not the case.
I choose "upsetting" as the fact apparent of today's referee is that he lacked any conviction in the slightest or belief in his own position (a factor to why the discipline of players was lost in the second half) and almost seemed afraid to make any sort of decision and where I would usually be enraged as a response to my shock, I am left disappointed but not suprised and hence upset.
Our penalty, if he is to deem it a penalty (which it of course was) would have to warrant a red card being shown. Not only was it a professional foul by the Forrest defender but a deliberate attempt to unfairly prevent an obvious goal scoring opportunity. As someone who as officiated football matches in the past, the one rule I would say is gospel is if you make a decision you must follow up with it's consequences. You cannot award a penalty like that without brandishing a red. You can not "half arse" the decision. This worked in our favour may I mention as Evans (if I remember correctly) elbowed one of the Forrest players and a free kick was awarded. Though I am glad all 11 Wigan players stayed on the pitch, the referee must realise that if he is to penalise a player for what he believes to be an elbow he must give the due punishment, and this sort of behaviour happened time and time again.
As for the Forrest penalty, how a individual in such a position would lack such confidence in his own ability to be so simply swayed by the persuasion of a set of players harassing him is most upsetting. I do not believe that their penalty was stone wall, however Sam was silly to attempt such a challenge as it only opens doors for these situations. Nevertheless, our former hero Watson channeled his inner Billy Bremner along with the rest of the Forrest players thinking they were Don Revie's Leeds and chose to scream at the ref until the eventually got what they wanted. One can only assume that if our lads had done the same that a infinite loop of changed decisions would have ensued, making for most entertaining viewing.
2-2 I feel is two points lost after today, but we march on. If that Forrest team is the same one that some predict to have an outside shot of play offs (which I can't see from today really) we are in for good shot this season. Sort out the mistakes and get a be more wise with certain decisions and games like that will be ours all day. Up the tics
I choose "upsetting" as the fact apparent of today's referee is that he lacked any conviction in the slightest or belief in his own position (a factor to why the discipline of players was lost in the second half) and almost seemed afraid to make any sort of decision and where I would usually be enraged as a response to my shock, I am left disappointed but not suprised and hence upset.
Our penalty, if he is to deem it a penalty (which it of course was) would have to warrant a red card being shown. Not only was it a professional foul by the Forrest defender but a deliberate attempt to unfairly prevent an obvious goal scoring opportunity. As someone who as officiated football matches in the past, the one rule I would say is gospel is if you make a decision you must follow up with it's consequences. You cannot award a penalty like that without brandishing a red. You can not "half arse" the decision. This worked in our favour may I mention as Evans (if I remember correctly) elbowed one of the Forrest players and a free kick was awarded. Though I am glad all 11 Wigan players stayed on the pitch, the referee must realise that if he is to penalise a player for what he believes to be an elbow he must give the due punishment, and this sort of behaviour happened time and time again.
As for the Forrest penalty, how a individual in such a position would lack such confidence in his own ability to be so simply swayed by the persuasion of a set of players harassing him is most upsetting. I do not believe that their penalty was stone wall, however Sam was silly to attempt such a challenge as it only opens doors for these situations. Nevertheless, our former hero Watson channeled his inner Billy Bremner along with the rest of the Forrest players thinking they were Don Revie's Leeds and chose to scream at the ref until the eventually got what they wanted. One can only assume that if our lads had done the same that a infinite loop of changed decisions would have ensued, making for most entertaining viewing.
2-2 I feel is two points lost after today, but we march on. If that Forrest team is the same one that some predict to have an outside shot of play offs (which I can't see from today really) we are in for good shot this season. Sort out the mistakes and get a be more wise with certain decisions and games like that will be ours all day. Up the tics
