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Polly 433 said:
Depends how you want to read data. More at risk of dying if type 1 compared to type 2 but 9 out of 10 diabetics are type 2. close link to obesity and therefore numerically more are dying with type 2, as one would expect. 75% of deaths have diabetic component. If over 80 double whammy.

Sugar in blood equals sticky blood and virus, equals blood clots in lungs. Nasty.
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Not just in lungs im afraid to say.
 
Our Kids Dad said:
The EFL has confirmed that 51% of clubs in either the Championship, League One or League Two need to agree for a campaign to be curtailed.

If a season is ended, the final table will be decided by an unweighted points-per-game system.


Anyone with a threat of relegation, but not in bottom 3 will vote to end the season, anyone with no chance of playoffs - will vote to end.

Leeds & WBA - would be promoted & thus, vote to end - so, you need 13 clubs in Championship, which I think will happen - given that you could probably put more than that in those categories now.

If season is ended the teams can then claim upon their business interruption insurance and plan for next season, no need for short contract extensions for players they don't want (loanees & players out of contract) - hence, saves money - mitigates risk!
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Thinking about this more - arguably, all of the top 6 would vote to end the season, whilst possible, it's probably unlikely that any could catch Leeds or WBA for auto's.

Hence, the 4 clubs in there now - get the payoff spots.

There are 6 clubs, potentially within reach of 3rd bottom - so, they'd probably vote to end the season early.

Reading & Wednesday are midtable on 48 points, 9 above Charlton & 8 behind PNE in 6th (12 behind us in 5th).

That vote could literally hinge on Reading & Wednesday!
 
So, promotion and relegation is a certainty (not necessarily for the SBC though; PL have to agree to that).

If they can't finish the season, they'll still do the playoffs.

Best scenario for us then is they can't finish the season, in which we are suddenly 2 games from the PL
 
Pope John XXIII said:
So, promotion and relegation is a certainty (not necessarily for the SBC though; PL have to agree to that).

If they can't finish the season, they'll still do the playoffs.

Best scenario for us then is they can't finish the season, in which we are suddenly 2 games from the PL
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Probably with the exception of Fulham, I don't think any of the sides in the playoffs would want the risk of being caught by Bristol, Millwall or Cardiff!

None within reach of Charlton would either... majority vote rules & would probably avoid any legal challenges?

Brum, Derby & Wednesday also facing sanctions - which could be enough to save Charlton?
 
Our Kids Dad said:
The EFL has confirmed that 51% of clubs in either the Championship, League One or League Two need to agree for a campaign to be curtailed.

If a season is ended, the final table will be decided by an unweighted points-per-game system.


Anyone with a threat of relegation, but not in bottom 3 will vote to end the season, anyone with no chance of playoffs - will vote to end.

Leeds & WBA - would be promoted & thus, vote to end - so, you need 13 clubs in Championship, which I think will happen - given that you could probably put more than that in those categories now.

If season is ended the teams can then claim upon their business interruption insurance and plan for next season, no need for short contract extensions for players they don't want (loanees & players out of contract) - hence, saves money - mitigates risk!
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What happens if the PL decide that there will be no relegation and no 23 team PL next season?
 
mao tse tung said:
What happens if the PL decide that there will be no relegation and no 23 team PL next season?
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Which is highly likely unless the FA step in and find some way to stop them.

I wonder if a compromise could be reached in which the three relegated teams get a share of the TV money anyway for a season?
 
Our Kids Dad said:
Probably with the exception of Fulham, I don't think any of the sides in the playoffs would want the risk of being caught by Bristol, Millwall or Cardiff!

None within reach of Charlton would either... majority vote rules & would probably avoid any legal challenges?

Brum, Derby & Wednesday also facing sanctions - which could be enough to save Charlton?
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Ok, so you have top 6 all voting to end the season most likely. Even Fulham must fancy their chances over two games more than 9. You've then got Hull in 21st through to Birmingham in 16th who are almost certain to vote to end it too so they avoid relegation.

That's 12 clubs.

You could imagine 6th through to 12th will vote against cancelling because they have a chance in the playoffs. But some of those chances are very small; you could imagine one might want to cancel on financial grounds. But let's say all six want to play.

That's 9 clubs when you include the bottom 3 voting against.

That leaves QPR, Reading and Wednesday to decide.

This really could happen
 
Pope John XXIII said:
Ok, so you have top 6 all voting to end the season most likely. Even Fulham must fancy their chances over two games more than 9. You've then got Hull in 21st through to Birmingham in 16th who are almost certain to vote to end it too so they avoid relegation.

That's 12 clubs.

You could imagine 6th through to 12th will vote against cancelling because they have a chance in the playoffs. But some of those chances are very small; you could imagine one might want to cancel on financial grounds. But let's say all six want to play.

That's 9 clubs when you include the bottom 3 voting against.

That leaves QPR, Reading and Wednesday to decide.

This really could happen
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The make up of the EFL Board makes interesting reading:

Rick Parry: Chairman.

Debbie Jevons and Simon Bazalgette: Non Executive Directors.

Club Representatives:

Mark Ashton: Bristol City

Stephen Pearce: Derby

Nigel Howe: Reading

Jez Moxey: Burton

Stephen Curwood: Fleetwood

John Nixon: Carlisle

Fleetwood were one of the 6 teams threatening to take legal action if their games did not take place, so I think it is fair to assume which way they will vote.

Bristol will certainly vote to continue.

Derby might think they have a chance so I can see them voting to continue.

The others have no real interest remaining

Its also interesting that both Derby and Reading, two Clubs who have bent the rules to get around P & S are both represented at Board level.

Something not right there!
 
Our Kids Dad said:
From the Beeb:

Some Championship players will have to conduct coronavirus tests themselves at home or the training ground after the first batch of testing at clubs.

The EFL distributed their initial protocols last week with a club specific 26-page document, obtained by BBC Sport, revealing that after the initial assessment at training grounds on Thursday and Friday, the tests should be "self-administered" on the morning of training twice a week.
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Wouldn't trust some of them to sit the right way around on the toilet and certainly not to follow the instructions of a 26 page document.
 
Pope John XXIII said:
Ok, so you have top 6 all voting to end the season most likely. Even Fulham must fancy their chances over two games more than 9. You've then got Hull in 21st through to Birmingham in 16th who are almost certain to vote to end it too so they avoid relegation.

That's 12 clubs.

You could imagine 6th through to 12th will vote against cancelling because they have a chance in the playoffs. But some of those chances are very small; you could imagine one might want to cancel on financial grounds. But let's say all six want to play.

That's 9 clubs when you include the bottom 3 voting against.

That leaves QPR, Reading and Wednesday to decide.

This really could happen
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Which is what I'd posted, I'd excluded QPR as they do have an outside shot at playoffs, but they've had financial problems before - so, hence, why I'd excluded them.

Even Derby, with 51 points - if they are punished by EFL, anything greater than 12 point deduction could push them into the relegation zone, but Wednesday would get the same or worse.... so they may be tempted to end the season too.
 
Clarification. I assume the vote will happen prior to rulings v Derby, Weds and Brum. All three could vote to end season now but next week have adverse ruling which could mean they start season with point reduction. Second wave means next season curtailed and void. All three get off Scott free. Need point deduction and transfer ban like we struggled with for a season that nearly cost us dear.
 
we cant be much worse at home without a crowd, hadnt we lost like 3 on the bounce. Id consider trying it irrespective of lock-down ;)
 
ZedRed said:
Presumably a PL2 would be outside of the EFL and therefore exempt Derby of any punishment of cheating that they committed in the EFL?
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Funny you should mention that.

Recently we have seen an increase in the amount of reporting on P & S transgressions involving Derby and Wednesday and another, as yet unnamed, 3 - 6 other Clubs, and all of a sudden there is talk of a breakaway league.
 
mao tse tung said:
Funny you should mention that.

Recently we have seen an increase in the amount of reporting on P & S transgressions involving Derby and Wednesday and another, as yet unnamed, 3 - 6 other Clubs, and all of a sudden there is talk of a breakaway league.
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Also funny that the majority of positive COVID tests are from relegation threatened clubs........
 
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