Experts say fat shaming should be made illegal

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Expert Says Fat-Shaming Should Be Made Illegal After Study Links Weight Discrimination To Depression

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The majority of us are quick to speak out against racism and sexism. But a leading academic has said we must do more to challenge people who fat-shame others.

Dr Sarah Jackson, from University College London, was commenting after a new study found that experiences of weight discrimination account for approximately 40% of the negative psychological effects associated with obesity.

Jackson - who was lead author of the study - believes the law in the UK should protect people against fat-shaming.

In the United Kingdom, the Equality Act 2010 legally protects individuals from discrimination on the basis of age, sex, race, disability, religion or beliefs, sexual orientation, marital status, pregnancy, or gender reassignment, making it clear that discriminatory behaviour of this nature is not to be accepted,” she said in a statement.

“However, our results indicate that discriminatory experiences contribute to poorer psychological wellbeing in individuals with obesity, but there are currently no laws prohibiting weight discrimination.

"This might send the message to people that weight discrimination is socially acceptable.”

Cont: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/26/fatshaming-illegal-ucl-obesity-study_n_6946456.html?1427376881&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067
 
Did you read the whole article Heath? Just they bought in bulimia and anorexia was widely acceptable as a mental health issue and explained why being overweight can be in some cases
 
Seek help, then. With most, it's not a Mental Illness, though, is it.

We live in a World with plentiful food and next to no exercise. It's not rocket science. Get off you backside and go for a walk, and stop eating so much. It's not hard.
 
I think with children and teens it's more of an issue. Some kids are fed shite by their irresponsible parents and end up fat, it's not really their faults, they don't know any better, and as they grow older they will be targets for bullies. And in turn bullying will lead to depression and other mental health issues in later life.

But once a certain age is reached, there's no excuse (unless there's a physical disability), with motivation and discipline people can lose weight easily. That being said, I don't know why anyone has to comment on another persons appearance.

 
There are many reasons people can be grossly overweight:

1/ Medical illnesses. Cushings disease/Prada Willi and under active thyroid are 3 I can name.

2/ Medical as people who are on alot of medications, they can interact to put on weight. It isn't always feasible for the person to come off that medication either.

For instance my 2nd lad is bipolar. The only med that has worked for him so far is Lithium. Lithium you can heavily weight gain on. Fortunately (??) my 2nd lad is very tall and lanky. He needed to put weight on. Since he has been on it he is now the weight he should be.

His bipolar when he heads for crisis affects him that he can't eat as he is physically not able too. He has to go on nutrient drinks to get what he needs until he is sorted.

3/ People say it isn't a mental health issue, yet will happily admit bulimia and anorexia are. It is widely accepted that alot of severely overweight/morbidly overweight people have other underlying issues and eat past 'comfort eating'

I don't get it how people can eat like those you see do (although I am overweight my difficulties come from health issues) however accept it as it is registered medical specialists that say this who have and are working in the field.

4/ I do accept that some people are just obese because they are and there is no hidden reason for it. Too damn all the same is not right. This is where this article is coming from.
 
Blah blah blah. Enabling.

Shut up, stop eating so much, move about a bit more.

If I can do it after 11 ops, a brain condition and countless reasons to go into the poor me I will stuff my face, so can most.

Experts my slim arse.

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As said, this is just part of the enabling, poor me, I will have another pie generation.

People are obese out of poor education and bad diets.

Poor education isn't an excuse, the information is out there, educate yourself.

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kefkat - 27/3/2015 23:56


(although I am overweight my difficulties come from health issues) however accept it as it is registered medical specialists that say this who have and are working in the field.
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Sorry kefkat. You've said it on an open forum so so I feel ok to answer on an open forum

Health issues don't help but it will be a poor diet as you've illustrated in other posts that makes you overweight. Said from experience of chronic near death several times ill health

And plenty of people sone call experts because they work in the health profession are charlatans and excuse my language, fucking idiots.

Said from someone who was dying who was told he suffered from stress. There are plenty of 'experts' who actually know sweet fa.

Some allow themselves to be enabled and hence become victims. Change really does come from ones own mental strength
 
Looks like humanity is reaching the point where everything becomes a mental health issue. From undesirable sexual fantasies, to flying an aircraft into a mountain, to not being able to exercise & eating too much.

You cant really do much about the thoughts that pop into your mind. And the choices you make are pre-programmed by your genes and upbringing. If today becomes a no cream cake day, then it will have been triggered by something in the thought process.

Maybe you could have been born the fat guy, the terrorist, the guy with dementia, the guy with unnatural thoughts - you could be the guy in that very skin?

I don't think being a fat and lazy individual is a life choice. I don't think crashing a plane into a mountain is a life choice. I don't think having undesirable thoughts is a life choice.

Why would someone chose to be fat and unhealthy?
 
LOL. There is a lot of enabling going on here. "I'm fat, but it's not my fault". :19: :19: :19: :19: :19: :19:

I accept there are a few people, and I mean very few, that might have trouble keeping their weight down due to other issues. However, the vast majority are just lazy gits. Lazy on two counts - they won't exercise and they won't take the time to eat properly.

Similar to Fear I have suffered from health issues that make it very difficult for me to even stand some days for 15 years. I have been told by GPs on many occasions to just rest and not to exercise too much, and yet I still try and do something. If it does get too bad, I cut back on what I eat.

It's very simple. Stop filling your face with crap and go for a walk.
 
Sometimes there are circumstances why you put weight on I have put about 3 stone on since the back end of last summer in a nutshell I was told to be very careful what I was doing which meant no gym and very little outdoor activities ie walking and such.Now I don't want to divulge the reasons for fear of compromising myself but there are very good reasons.Have tried doing exercise in the house but it's just not the same so I have found myself in a bit of a rut and bored so I have been doing a lot of comfort eating any old shit and now i'm starting to hate myself for it.But it won't be forever July to be precise then I damn sure I will do something about it.
 
Sorry to hear about your troubles gator.

Your last sentence says it all for me. You'll do something about it when you can. The people I am talking about never will, because they don't care. They would rather eat and do nothing than look good r feel healthy.

I'm bigger than I should be, and as such I expect ridicule from my friends and anyone else. It pushes me to do better. Having said that, I am talking more about the massively overweight here. Surely, one day they look in a mirror and go "enough is enough"?
 
gator - 28/3/2015 11:02

Sometimes there are circumstances why you put weight on I have put about 3 stone on since the back end of last summer in a nutshell I was told to be very careful what I was doing which meant no gym and very little outdoor activities ie walking and such.Now I don't want to divulge the reasons for fear of compromising myself but there are very good reasons.Have tried doing exercise in the house but it's just not the same so I have found myself in a bit of a rut and bored so I have been doing a lot of comfort eating any old shit and now i'm starting to hate myself for it.But it won't be forever July to be precise then I damn sure I will do something about it.
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The problem with a lot of people gator is that because they think the things they do; eg, "I can exercise, I can control what I eat", they automatically think everyone else has the same mindset - so they judge a person "on their own ideals".

Nobody on here has lived your live, nobody on here is in your skin - so how can they even begin to know what it is like and judge you on it(and this goes for anyone whether fat or thin)?
 
Yeah Heath I don't understand people who are massively overweight for no other reason than being bone idol with me I have a big gut and i'm really embarrassed by it and feel very uncomfortable when i'm out.My waist size has gone from 36 to 40 I find myself sitting in pubs with my baggy jacket zipped up even though i'm sweating.How people can be comfortable and happy with their appearance being obese I really don't understand it for me it's a living nightmare and i'm quite a big lad naturally so I carry it better than most but I still feel horrible.
 
I did employ 2 larger ladies when working, and regretted it both times. They had far more sick days and their general attitude was all wrong. It's not a mistake I would make again, and so yes, I would discriminate against anyone that fat.

To me it tells you a lot about a person. Their inability to control their own diet and exercise spills over into their ability to do their job. If they can't refuse a cake in the Office, how can I expect them to have the strength of character to turn up to work on a regular basis?
 
Green Tea - 28/3/2015 11:18

gator - 28/3/2015 11:02

Sometimes there are circumstances why you put weight on I have put about 3 stone on since the back end of last summer in a nutshell I was told to be very careful what I was doing which meant no gym and very little outdoor activities ie walking and such.Now I don't want to divulge the reasons for fear of compromising myself but there are very good reasons.Have tried doing exercise in the house but it's just not the same so I have found myself in a bit of a rut and bored so I have been doing a lot of comfort eating any old shit and now i'm starting to hate myself for it.But it won't be forever July to be precise then I damn sure I will do something about it.
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The problem with a lot of people gator is that because they think the things they do; eg, "I can exercise, I can control what I eat", they automatically think everyone else has the same mindset - so they judge a person "on their own ideals".

Nobody on here has lived your live, nobody on here is in your skin - so how can they even begin to know what it is like and judge you on it(and this goes for anyone whether fat or thin)?
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Absolutely mate sometimes life can dictate a path we take now I have always been active and I also had a physical job and quite a good diet considering I worked away from home a good portion of my time.For me in a few months time this living hell will be over and I will be able to move on and get my life back on track.But it's the ones that choose to be lazy and eat shit fast food because they are too lazy to cook then just veg on the couch I really do not understand them and deserve everything they get when it all goes tits up.
 
The Fear - 28/3/2015 00:11

kefkat - 27/3/2015 23:56


(although I am overweight my difficulties come from health issues) however accept it as it is registered medical specialists that say this who have and are working in the field.
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Sorry kefkat. You've said it on an open forum so so I feel ok to answer on an open forum

Health issues don't help but it will be a poor diet as you've illustrated in other posts that makes you overweight. Said from experience of chronic near death several times ill health

And plenty of people sone call experts because they work in the health profession are charlatans and excuse my language, fucking idiots.

Said from someone who was dying who was told he suffered from stress. There are plenty of 'experts' who actually know sweet fa.

Some allow themselves to be enabled and hence become victims. Change really does come from ones own mental strength
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I totally agree with you that I can do something about being overweight (I am a size 14-16) which is about average in The U.K. Yes it is harder with me with a catalogue of health problems. Yes I know you have sorted it out for you.

I don't deny it is down to me to do it. Being overweight and being obese/morbidly are two different things. That is not making excuses. I don't know how these people can eat the amount they are to get like they do.

It is down to me to lose weight I know. I have been both extremes. I had never had a particular problem with my weight before it started to creep up from 2003.

Infact in my case I went the other way after having children and my weight was always exact for what it should be. I could eat anything I wanted too, with no problem.

I started to go below weight towards the end of the marriage towards the ex and in the aftermath. It isn't healthy to be underweight either.

My weight started to creep up with health problems. I managed to keep it reasonable under control when I was able to ride my bike. I had to stop that 5 years ago because of balance issues and I couldn't grip properly the handle bars. Then it crept up some more. Down to me yes I accept.

I would say it is in the last 5 years my weight has gone up and I am a 14/16. You can still be overweight and healthy. I have a friend who is big yet goes to the gym 3 times a week.

I do exercise, I do walk. I go through various stages of specific exercising in ways I can. It is down to me to stick at it. I have been through much harder in my life than losing weight so I guess I am not too over bothered. I am at times. I know I can get rid of the extra few stone, I should, if I wanted too that much, as hard as it can be.

Over all it is a difficult 1 to sum up as I was underweight/right weight for many years yet I wasn't healthy as my mental health was fcuked, so then wasn't eating properly either.

I am over weight now, emotionally happier than I have been in my life, mental health more managed today than it manages me, so it is about the roles changing.

I just find it hard to accept that it seems so many think it is always a can't be bothered issue and the person own fault they are over weight.

What I see around me, there are people who particular health problems such as Cushings and Prada Willi that mean the person will be overweight. That there are concoctions of medication a person has to take can make them obese and they can't lose it.

I just find it difficult to accept that people always think people are just obese cos they are. Usually there is an underlying cause. Also so many look at people obese and just think it is there own fault without knowing that to be true. There are physical underlying causes in a good percentage of cases.

I have mentioned bulimia and anorexia in here and no one has commented on what they think of those 2 illnesses.

 
Bulimia and anorexia are different to just allowing yourself to become fat. They are complicated illnesses revolving around a distortion of self image.

There is no way you can compare them to most peoples weight problems. There just is no relationship there at all.
 
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