Europe In Out Shake it all about
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danvilla2
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danvilla2
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Course there will be a deal, even this buffoon knows we need a deal, heās just trying to act up to being a good negotiator.
The flippant remark doesnāt seem quite as scary as the article, next week weāll see a raised threat of āno dealā plastered in every headline. By the end of November, low and behold = deal.
The flippant remark doesnāt seem quite as scary as the article, next week weāll see a raised threat of āno dealā plastered in every headline. By the end of November, low and behold = deal.
BodyButter
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Someone on a podcast said that the end of October was really the deadline since it would take months to resolve the paperwork. Still, I can't see why a temporary solution couldn't be found if a deal was reached at the last minute.
danvilla2
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The thing is with these absolute fucking idiots in charge who donāt understand the reality of what they are deciding, this has massive implications for my company and ultimately the consumer. The amount things we have to change is mammouth and quite a seismic change for just one company. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands of companies of all shape and sizes, and then factor in all the government organisations and system that need to understand, change and be ready for the go live date...
Itās going to be week if not months of complete fucking disaster with a no deal. And thatās knowing the impact now, and not the last minute in November just before the country slows down for Xmas!
Iām half intrigued to see a no deal which is a bit economically sadistic.
danvilla2
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Itās quite interesting though how corona and lockdown is much bigger news, and apart from those in industry or politically motivated i donāt believe this headline will have the shock that Boris and Co will have hoped.
Bloke I work with was banging on today about āEU being bulliesā. I blame that on that slimeball Gove, he comes out with a statement, plants a seed and Brits are quoting him a few weeks later. Smart operator though is Gove
Bloke I work with was banging on today about āEU being bulliesā. I blame that on that slimeball Gove, he comes out with a statement, plants a seed and Brits are quoting him a few weeks later. Smart operator though is Gove
kefkat
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In alot of cases it's lower intellect! I know it sounds snobby but its true. The toffs feed them this crap and they take it as face value
BodyButter
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It seems to me that Boris is backing himself into a corner.
danvilla2
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To me, it seems like heās trying to use Cummings shock and rock the boat tactics, but it isnāt driving the desired patriotism at home (because the average Brit probably isnāt losing much sleep over a deal or not, though we should all be), neither is it looking very professional with the European negotiators.
I was critical of Mayās negotiation tactics 2 years ago as for me she didnāt start hard enough, she started at a position that wouldāve seen her lose our seat at the table but have to accept all four freedoms. Boris has - near the last minute - decided to send his curve ball in.
Behind the headlines, it doesnāt actually sound like the negotiators are far off.
kefkat
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danvilla2
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I havenāt read the article in detail only skim read, but there are Netflix programmes about this, The Great Hack. Trump and CA isnāt new news to me, unless itās something else in there Iām missing?
Itās fascinating what they did, CA worked successfully on campaigns that all went against what voted for and what I would vote against if I could, they were unbelievable at what they did.
mike_field
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I only skim read and didn't deep dive, but it seems there's evidence the whole vote leave in conjunction with CA was a lot murkier than already suspected. But that's not really a surprise is it.
BodyButter
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The CANZUK proposal is interesting.
It's never going to replace volume of trade that the UK does with the EU but a cultural union is something that hasn't been tried before on this scale.
It's never going to replace volume of trade that the UK does with the EU but a cultural union is something that hasn't been tried before on this scale.
danvilla2
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I donāt know if I find it funny at how simplistically we are referring to the deals, whether thatās the intelligence of the public or the PM with the āCanadaā or āAustralianā style. I bet heās only just got up to speed with the Canada arrangement is.
From what Iāve read about the Canada deal, it only covers goods and travel. Great for a nation which relies more heavily on services...
I donāt doubt weāll get a low tariff agreement on goods with the EU - that benefits them and the consumer. The acid test for Boris and Co will be what the negotiate for our very important and highly lucrative (if sometimes a bit murky) financial sector.
From what Iāve read about the Canada deal, it only covers goods and travel. Great for a nation which relies more heavily on services...
I donāt doubt weāll get a low tariff agreement on goods with the EU - that benefits them and the consumer. The acid test for Boris and Co will be what the negotiate for our very important and highly lucrative (if sometimes a bit murky) financial sector.
