Europa League Match Thread: Nottingham Forest Vs Porto, Sponsored by Dimoxinil

Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
I think with the level of application and back to basics Dyche will demand and quality in the squad we are a top half team at least

In fact top 8 at least

Sunderland, Palace and Spurs are top 8 and we are better than them

And capable of beating any team over 2 legs in Europa

We need a bit of luck though as always each week

I think hard work and application every game can help deliver some luck though

ONE THING WE RELY ON THOUGH IS TOGETHERNESS. WE MUST KEEP THAT TO MAX OUT

We had very much lost it
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You think we can achieve top 8 *this* season? With the start we’ve had?

I read that statistically it’s rare to even get top half when you’re this far behind at this point in the season? We’d need a Steve Cooper-style surge where we win 5 plus games on the bounce more than once, and rarely lose?

I still feel we have the best Forest squad in my lifetime (though Aina is a big miss) - but I can’t see us doing better than lower mid sadly. And at the moment, very much still worried about relegation, and will be until these lads have shown they can win a few in this league again.

Bournemouth are flying at the minute and we always lose to them even when they’re not.

United are United but don’t seem anything like as crap as last year.

Unless we’re absolutely exceptional, we could easily get nothing from those games - or just a point. Which would be something but, long way to go before we’re out of the mire…
 
Peter Baxendale Thomas said:
You think we can achieve top 8 *this* season? With the start we’ve had?

I read that statistically it’s rare to even get top half when you’re this far behind at this point in the season? We’d need a Steve Cooper-style surge where we win 5 plus games on the bounce more than once, and rarely lose?

I still feel we have the best Forest squad in my lifetime (though Aina is a big miss) - but I can’t see us doing better than lower mid sadly. And at the moment, very much still worried about relegation, and will be until these lads have shown they can win a few in this league again.

Bournemouth are flying at the minute and we always lose to them even when they’re not.

United are United but don’t seem anything like as crap as last year.

Unless we’re absolutely exceptional, we could easily get nothing from those games - or just a point. Which would be something but, long way to go before we’re out of the mire…
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Not forecasting our final position above. Just rating our potential as a squad as we are

This season i think we can still make top half for sure though if we play to our potential from now on

I was just replying about how good i think the squad actually is
 
Peter Baxendale Thomas said:
You think we can achieve top 8 *this* season? With the start we’ve had?

I read that statistically it’s rare to even get top half when you’re this far behind at this point in the season? We’d need a Steve Cooper-style surge where we win 5 plus games on the bounce more than once, and rarely lose?

I still feel we have the best Forest squad in my lifetime (though Aina is a big miss) - but I can’t see us doing better than lower mid sadly. And at the moment, very much still worried about relegation, and will be until these lads have shown they can win a few in this league again.

Bournemouth are flying at the minute and we always lose to them even when they’re not.

United are United but don’t seem anything like as crap as last year.

Unless we’re absolutely exceptional, we could easily get nothing from those games - or just a point. Which would be something but, long way to go before we’re out of the mire…
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8th place is 7 points ahead of where we are, so easily doable with 30 games left

We lost an 8 point gap with 7 games left at the end of the season

Whether we can easily do it is the question. If we take the next games as a comparison to our first 8 games, and we can find a way to take 14-15 points from those let’s see where the gap is then
 
finbar70 said:
8th place is 7 points ahead of where we are, so easily doable with 30 games left

We lost an 8 point gap with 7 games left at the end of the season

Whether we can easily do it is the question. If we take the next games as a comparison to our first 8 games, and we can find a way to take 14-15 points from those let’s see where the gap is then
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Next 8 games = 14/15 points, that's near enough 2 points a game, which in most competions is reserved for teams winning their league.
 
Basha73 said:
My hope is a top ten finish but my expectation is at least lower mid-table. I don’t expect us to be in the relegation battle by January.
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On paper, it would be mad if we were… but I feel like a lifetime of support has taught me that nothing is off the table at Forest.

Also can’t help but think of Southampton, Leicester - how they did well then plummeted.

(If anyone can explain why our case is very different to the above, would genuinely appreciate it. I don’t think enough time has passed yet to say Ange was the sole problem, even if he was a big part of it).
 
finbar70 said:
8th place is 7 points ahead of where we are, so easily doable with 30 games left

We lost an 8 point gap with 7 games left at the end of the season

Whether we can easily do it is the question. If we take the next games as a comparison to our first 8 games, and we can find a way to take 14-15 points from those let’s see where the gap is then
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If we manage to get, say, 4 points from the next 2 I’d breathe a little easier.

But as I say - you could see us playing fine and still losing to one or both of these sides.

I’d bite your hand off for an ugly point at Bournemouth. Fed up of losing there.
 
Peter Baxendale Thomas said:
If we manage to get, say, 4 points from the next 2 I’d breathe a little easier.

But as I say - you could see us playing fine and still losing to one or both of these sides.

I’d bite your hand off for an ugly point at Bournemouth. Fed up of losing there.
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3 points from next 2 games would be good

But at same time i dont want us to lose to either

A nice little unbeaten run would be great
 
Peter Baxendale Thomas said:
If we manage to get, say, 4 points from the next 2 I’d breathe a little easier.

But as I say - you could see us playing fine and still losing to one or both of these sides.

I’d bite your hand off for an ugly point at Bournemouth. Fed up of losing there.
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I can see an upper mid table finish, so 10-13. I have a feeling we will get 4 points from the next 2, but in no particular order
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
Not forecasting our final position above. Just rating our potential as a squad as we are

This season i think we can still make top half for sure though if we play to our potential from now on

I was just replying about how good i think the squad actually is
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Maybe we’re just not as good as we think we are?
Myself included.
See what the next couple of games brings.
We can’t use the excuse of who we’re playing against, at the end of the day you could look at any game and make an excuse as to why you won’t get a result.
We have to win some league games.
 
In general I think all EPL teams have become tougher to beat

Setting up tight at the back etc

Arent even any easier games now. Let alone easy

Everyone tough to beat

You can argue its similar in Europa

So much emphasis on making it hard for the opposition now

Its so mentallly and physically draining to win games

Hence having a bigger squad should help the longer the season goes

Having a pragmatic manager is the way for us I think

Last few seasons weve shown the way for others.

Now lesser squads know they can dig in tight to win points against anyone
 
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CornishForest said:
Maybe we’re just not as good as we think we are?
Myself included.
See what the next couple of games brings.
We can’t use the excuse of who we’re playing against, at the end of the day you could look at any game and make an excuse as to why you won’t get a result.
We have to win some league games.
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Well that’s a novel thought. That could very well be the case. However if Sunderland can do it, so can we
 
Wonder if Dyche will finish 17th with the reds and win the Europa League.

We're gonna lose vs Bournemouth, and Man United will flatten us next saturday.
 
CornishForest said:
Maybe we’re just not as good as we think we are?
Myself included.
See what the next couple of games brings.
We can’t use the excuse of who we’re playing against, at the end of the day you could look at any game and make an excuse as to why you won’t get a result.
We have to win some league games.
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I would say the opposite, we are not as bad as we think we are.

We had reached the same self imposed ceiling with Nuno, as he reached with wolves and Ange was a mistake swiftly corrected. We will soon see whether last season's finish or our current position is a false position. Thursday's performance persuades me of the latter.
 
I think we need to take 7 points from the next 9 in the PL. A bit too much of a gap right now and crap GD. Leeds at home is a must win, and we have to find a way to get at least 4 points from Muff and United.
 
finbar70 said:
I think we need to take 7 points from the next 9 in the PL. A bit too much of a gap right now and crap GD. Leeds at home is a must win, and we have to find a way to get at least 4 points from Muff and United.
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I reckon the bare minimum is 8 points from the next 3 games, IMO.
 
finbar70 said:
I think we need to take 7 points from the next 9 in the PL. A bit too much of a gap right now and crap GD. Leeds at home is a must win, and we have to find a way to get at least 4 points from Muff and United.
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In an ideal world, we'd win all 3, with at least a plus 2 GD each game but realistically, as things stand, not losing those 3 games with at least 1 win would do for me.
 
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