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Wayne.Kerr

Vital Football Hero
Worldwide, growth is expected to slow - mainly in China.....
Italy is already in recession - and France, Germany on the brink.....

... but that won't stop whinging Remainers claiming Brexit as the primary cause.

(Apparently the USA is predicted to retain solid growth - "despite Trump".)
Italy is in recession what a surprise. Successive lame duck governments are to blame - nothing to do with the EU. The current so-called populist lot haven’t instituted any of its mosh mash of policies; so, it’s no wonder the economy is going backwards
 

Trashbat

Vital Reserves Team
Worldwide, growth is expected to slow - mainly in China.....
Italy is already in recession - and France, Germany on the brink.....

... but that won't stop whinging Remainers claiming Brexit as the primary cause.

(Apparently the USA is predicted to retain solid growth - "despite Trump".)
Muppet. I specifically said ‘partly caused by Brexit’ to acknowledge that there are other factors at play.

But the drop in investment since Brexit is indisputable. And the relative performance of UK Plc post referendum compared with G7 is indisputable. But don’t let that get in the way of you own agenda.

I can say with 100% confidence that EEA syndicate risks are all moving to a combination of Lloyd’s Brussels and Dublin legal entities. This was a direct response to Brexit and would never have occurred without the referendum. I can say with 100% confidence because that is an area that I am helping insurance companies with. They are unanimously doing the same. Significant impact the UK Plc which we’ll see in the Q1 growth rates.
 

jogills

Vital Squad Member
'By this definition Type 1 grooming gags have been recruiting young girls for prostitution for centuries'

That's not true , these organised crimes committed by (mostly) Islamic gangs commenced in the 1970's.
Shared around amongst brothers , cousins , any male they knew ?
Previous criminal trials , also show us that they are racially/religiously aggravated ,with what was said to the victims , and the torture they suffered.
Are you immune to logic, or just determined to see only muslims. I gave you but one example in our long and inglorious history of female exploitation, in which all the features of so called Type 1 grooming. That is how men have forced wom,en into prostitution through the ages. British muslims did not invent the model.

If you think this behaviour began in the 1970s you are in a bubble of your own delusion. How do you think the prostitutes, who congregated around every barrack area of the British army since its inception were formed and recruited? Perhaps they just thought it was a decent job and the chaps around them were just friends. Do you understand the word pimp. Do you understand how these men recruit and enslave girls, how they groom, befriend then abuse and prostitute them. It's as old as the hills.
 

valenciagill

Vital Squad Member
Are you immune to logic, or just determined to see only muslims. I gave you but one example in our long and inglorious history of female exploitation, in which all the features of so called Type 1 grooming. That is how men have forced wom,en into prostitution through the ages. British muslims did not invent the model.

If you think this behaviour began in the 1970s you are in a bubble of your own delusion. How do you think the prostitutes, who congregated around every barrack area of the British army since its inception were formed and recruited? Perhaps they just thought it was a decent job and the chaps around them were just friends. Do you understand the word pimp. Do you understand how these men recruit and enslave girls, how they groom, befriend then abuse and prostitute them. It's as old as the hills.
Burying your head won't help you , the victims or anyone else.
 
There are approximately 250 companies that have, or are looking to, relocate all, or part, of their operations to Holland on the back of a no deal scenario. This has already cost 1500 or so jobs. This has been reported in the press, and confirmed by my employer, who are one of those companies. We are setting up a sister company in the eu, to whom we will sell our goods to at a 40% reduction. The duty will be paid on this lower figure, reducing how much HMRC receives (and we are talking in 7 figures). The aim will be to set up 2 or 3 distribution hubs, reducing storage we currently use in the UK...more loss of revenue for the UK. There will likely be a transfer of production capacity to a new site in Holland, that has already been earmarked for a new facility that, pre 2016, was meant for the UK. More loss of revenue for the UK. Hopefully, although I doubt it, there will be no job losses. Still for anyone that does lose their job, they can rest easy knowing that we have regained our soveriegnty and control of our borders, and all will be well as they wave the union jack and sing "God save the fucking queen" whilst grabbing the largest can of tesco savers soup from the local food bank. Hopefully, all the unicorns and rainbows that will magically appear will ease any suffering. Or maybe, the trade deals that Fox is arranging with Botswana and Mauritania will provide any jobs or loss of revenue
 
There are approximately 250 companies that have, or are looking to, relocate all, or part, of their operations to Holland on the back of a no deal scenario. This has already cost 1500 or so jobs. This has been reported in the press, and confirmed by my employer, who are one of those companies.
1500 potential job losses (from 250 companies - that adds up to 6 per company?) in a country that has tens of millions in employment and apparently needs so much foreign labour to fill jobs at present that an open door immigration policy is regarded by remoaners as an essential thing?

You'll have to come up with bigger fish than that.

And I suppose being in the EU would stop any of those companies deciding to up sticks, even on a whim? What exactly would prevent them?

I lost my job when my employers decided to send all their back office jobs abroad but, in my case, it was Scotland. I accepted it as the way of the modern world. Plenty of other jobs were available if I had not already been so close to retirement that it was not worth retraining.

It is the height of hilarity that you use terms like unicorns to discredit Brexit and yet are happy to continue to spout crap about mass food bank usage which has the same relation to reality.
 
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Gills 58

Vital Squad Member
Well said Mwhmets but the delu
There are approximately 250 companies that have, or are looking to, relocate all, or part, of their operations to Holland on the back of a no deal scenario. This has already cost 1500 or so jobs. This has been reported in the press, and confirmed by my employer, who are one of those companies. We are setting up a sister company in the eu, to whom we will sell our goods to at a 40% reduction. The duty will be paid on this lower figure, reducing how much HMRC receives (and we are talking in 7 figures). The aim will be to set up 2 or 3 distribution hubs, reducing storage we currently use in the UK...more loss of revenue for the UK. There will likely be a transfer of production capacity to a new site in Holland, that has already been earmarked for a new facility that, pre 2016, was meant for the UK. More loss of revenue for the UK. Hopefully, although I doubt it, there will be no job losses. Still for anyone that does lose their job, they can rest easy knowing that we have regained our soveriegnty and control of our borders, and all will be well as they wave the union jack and sing "God save the fucking queen" whilst grabbing the largest can of tesco savers soup from the local food bank. Hopefully, all the unicorns and rainbows that will magically appear will ease any suffering. Or maybe, the trade deals that Fox is arranging with Botswana and Mauritania will provide any jobs or loss of revenue
Well said Mehmets but the deluded will say you are lying as part of their imagined project fear. Brexit is like a loony religious faith. It doesn't matter what evidence or facts you have. They belieeeeeeve.
 

valenciagill

Vital Squad Member
There are approximately 250 companies that have, or are looking to, relocate all, or part, of their operations to Holland on the back of a no deal scenario. This has already cost 1500 or so jobs. This has been reported in the press, and confirmed by my employer, who are one of those companies. We are setting up a sister company in the eu, to whom we will sell our goods to at a 40% reduction. The duty will be paid on this lower figure, reducing how much HMRC receives (and we are talking in 7 figures). The aim will be to set up 2 or 3 distribution hubs, reducing storage we currently use in the UK...more loss of revenue for the UK. There will likely be a transfer of production capacity to a new site in Holland, that has already been earmarked for a new facility that, pre 2016, was meant for the UK. More loss of revenue for the UK. Hopefully, although I doubt it, there will be no job losses. Still for anyone that does lose their job, they can rest easy knowing that we have regained our soveriegnty and control of our borders, and all will be well as they wave the union jack and sing "God save the fucking queen" whilst grabbing the largest can of tesco savers soup from the local food bank. Hopefully, all the unicorns and rainbows that will magically appear will ease any suffering. Or maybe, the trade deals that Fox is arranging with Botswana and Mauritania will provide any jobs or loss of revenue
You are selfishly thinking of yourself , and not your country.
 

Gills 58

Vital Squad Member
1500 potential job losses (from 250 companies - that adds up to 6 per company?) in a country that has tens of millions in employment and apparently needs so much foreign labour to fill jobs at present that an open door immigration policy is regarded by remoaners as an essential thing?

You'll have to come up with bigger fish than that.

And I suppose being in the EU would stop any of those companies deciding to up sticks, even on a whim? What exactly would prevent them?

I lost my job when my employers decided to send all their back office jobs abroad but, in my case, it was Scotland. I accepted it as the way of the modern world. Plenty of other jobs were available if I had not already been so close to retirement that it was not worth retraining.

It is the height of hilarity that you use terms like unicorns to discredit Brexit and yet are happy to continue to spout crap about mass food bank usage which has the same relation to reality.
You are blaming the failures of successive governments and the power of international capital on the existence of the EU. You are truly deluded if you think these problems will be solved by exiting the EU. I contend that we will be even more at their mercy. You are fighting for the same thing as Trump/Putin/Murdich/Rees Mogg. What are you on?
 

Wayne.Kerr

Vital Football Hero
Liam Fox is running around the world signing new trade deals, to begin once we leave.
45 days to get the 'peoples vote' organized.
Govt preparing for no deal (y)
Liam Fox is doing no such thing and you know or perhaps you don't. Trade deal details take months/years to be concluded unless, of course, it's good old Botswana. What Liam Fox is doing is the groundwork for negotiations to start.

If you truly believe that, take a look at the Japan-EU trade agreement and the amount of detail covered http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1684 and then understand why these things take so long to thrash out. Every commodity traded has to be considered - look and learn

As most of the UK's trade agreements have been drawn up by the EU on behalf of the member states, the UK will have to draw up about 80 such agreements around the globe. Carry on believing that Fox has been signing trade deals if you like; it suits your cloud cuckoo land life.
 

valenciagill

Vital Squad Member
Liam Fox is doing no such thing and you know or perhaps you don't. Trade deal details take months/years to be concluded unless, of course, it's good old Botswana. What Liam Fox is doing is the groundwork for negotiations to start.

If you truly believe that, take a look at the Japan-EU trade agreement and the amount of detail covered http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1684 and then understand why these things take so long to thrash out. Every commodity traded has to be considered - look and learn

As most of the UK's trade agreements have been drawn up by the EU on behalf of the member states, the UK will have to draw up about 80 such agreements around the globe. Carry on believing that Fox has been signing trade deals if you like; it suits your cloud cuckoo land life.
We are leaving ! Will the penny drop in the next 45 days ? Who is really in cloud cuckoo land !
 

valenciagill

Vital Squad Member
You are blaming the failures of successive governments and the power of international capital on the existence of the EU. You are truly deluded if you think these problems will be solved by exiting the EU. I contend that we will be even more at their mercy. You are fighting for the same thing as Trump/Putin/Murdich/Rees Mogg. What are you on?
What is he on ?
How about
The winning side ?