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MEPs reject EU spending cuts and demand extra £1.7bn from British taxpayers

MEPs have rejected cuts to European Union budgets agreed at an all-night summit last month and have demanded that national governments pay an extra £14 billion in spending for this year.

The European Parliament demands, which hold the spending deal hostage, could cost the British taxpayer up to £1.7 billion in extra EU contributions in 2013 at a time of deep cuts to domestic public spending. Photo: Reuters

By Bruno Waterfield, Brussels

2:35PM GMT 13 Mar 2013

Five weeks ago, at a marathon 32-hour Brussels summit, David Cameron secured a reduction in long-term European spending plans, the first in the EU's history.

The Prime Minister hailed the EU cuts as the implementation of long overdue austerity in Brussels at a time when national governments were cutting back on spending.

The European Parliament demands, which hold the spending deal hostage, could cost the British taxpayer up to £1.7 billion in extra EU contributions in 2013 at a time of deep cuts to domestic public spending.

"The European Parliament cannot accept the proposal from the member states without the fulfilment of certain essential conditions," said Martin Schulz, the speaker of the EU assembly.

While accepting the overall figures for EU financing for the seven years 2014 to 2020, the parliament has tied its agreement to a number of conditions including "unpaid payment claims" for this year, a bill that would represent a 12 per cent increase in national contributions.

MEPs have also demanded a "compulsory, legally binding and comprehensive revision" of EU spending cuts in 2017 that would be decided by a vote, stripping Britain of its veto.

The parliament is also seeking more "flexibility" in spending to allow the EU to reach expenditure ceilings and to roll cash over from one year to another between 2014 and 2020.

Most controversially, and without any prospect of agreement, MEPs have demanded that the EU create new taxes to fund the Brussels budget.

"These issues are of fundamental importance for the parliament. The European Parliament will not accept the proposal from the member states unless there is movement on all of these issues," said Mr Schulz.

Diplomats have ruled out any talks on new EU taxes but have signalled that negotiations could take place on other issues, including extra spending for 2013.

Martin Callanan MEP, the leader of European Conservatives, accused the majority of the parliament, which rejected the cuts by 506 to 161 votes, of "flying in the face of public opinion".

"The European Parliament is engaging in the worst kind of posturing, which makes it look completely out of touch with reality," he said.

"The EU budget deal was a reasonable compromise between many competing demands."

Under the Lisbon Treaty, which entered into force in late 2009, MEPs have new powers to block EU spending deals agreed by national governments whose annual contributions are the source of Brussels funding.

Following the February 8 agreement to cut EU spending by £30 billion between 2014 and 2020, Mr Cameron warned MEPs not to try to override governments that were responsible to national parliaments for budget expenditure.

The parliament was forced to back down on plans to hold a secret ballot on the spending agreement after accusations that MEPs were trying to evade accountability to their voters.
 
These people are nuts, this organisation simply does not live in the real World.

Don't they realise that this country is technically bankrupt FFS?!

So now they are rejecting what Nationally elected government agreed and unbelievably want to create new taxes just to fund them ..

They must live in some bizare cloud cuckoo land where up is down and down is up.

How much longer will be have to put up with this?
 
Plus side - We have loads of hot european ladies getting job seekers & housing benefits for nothing.

Down side - We have loads of european men & ugly ladies getting job seekers & housing benefits for nothing.

 
80deg16minW - 13/3/2013 21:10

What are the penalties for opting out?

It would greatly reduce the quality of the PL for a start!

Trade sanctions, incoming and outgoing tourists (to/from the rest of Europe) will needs visa's..... it has its problems!
 
Dave the Yid - 14/3/2013 07:22

80deg16minW - 13/3/2013 21:10

What are the penalties for opting out?

It would greatly reduce the quality of the PL for a start!

Trade sanctions, incoming and outgoing tourists (to/from the rest of Europe) will needs visa's..... it has its problems!

Absolutely none of that would happen..they weren't there before, so why would they be there after?

Just look at all the agreements Norway have with the EU - that would be the most likely model we'd adopt.
 
Spursex - 14/3/2013 07:28

Dave the Yid - 14/3/2013 07:22

80deg16minW - 13/3/2013 21:10

What are the penalties for opting out?

It would greatly reduce the quality of the PL for a start!

Trade sanctions, incoming and outgoing tourists (to/from the rest of Europe) will needs visa's..... it has its problems!

Absolutely none of that would happen..they weren't there before, so why would they be there after?

Just look at all the agreements Norway have with the EU - that would be the most likely model we'd adopt.

Thats exactly what I said to one of my friends who is pro EU a few weeks ago. Thing is, the rest of Europe would struggle far more than we would if we were to isolate ourselves. Laws would just end up being relaxed but we can be tougher on the ones we still want to be.

I think my mate is just worried as he's seeing a French bird, and he'd probably have to end up marrying her!

I'm for leaving the EU btw - was just answering the basics of 80's question
 
Dave the Yid - 14/3/2013 07:59

Spursex - 14/3/2013 07:28

Dave the Yid - 14/3/2013 07:22

80deg16minW - 13/3/2013 21:10

What are the penalties for opting out?

It would greatly reduce the quality of the PL for a start!

Trade sanctions, incoming and outgoing tourists (to/from the rest of Europe) will needs visa's..... it has its problems!

Absolutely none of that would happen..they weren't there before, so why would they be there after?

Just look at all the agreements Norway have with the EU - that would be the most likely model we'd adopt.

Thats exactly what I said to one of my friends who is pro EU a few weeks ago. Thing is, the rest of Europe would struggle far more than we would if we were to isolate ourselves. Laws would just end up being relaxed but we can be tougher on the ones we still want to be.

I think my mate is just worried as he's seeing a French bird, and he'd probably have to end up marrying her!

I'm for leaving the EU btw - was just answering the basics of 80's question

I actually don't want to leave the EU, but I also didn't and was never asked to hand over our soveriegnity the way we did under the treaty of lisbon...others got a referendum, we didn't.

There is no reason why the EU shouldn't have it's horns pulled in and we assert our national interest, none whatsoever. Everyone would be better off for it.
 
The problem is that most of the EU is in favour of 'Tax and spend', which hopefully, we are not in favour of now. To have most of Europe in favour of it and thinking that they can tax us and spend it on all their projects, they can get lost.

We badly need our country put back in the hands of OUR government and then the people of this country can get back to determining our own future.
 
Spursex - 14/3/2013 09:36

Dave the Yid - 14/3/2013 07:59

Spursex - 14/3/2013 07:28

Dave the Yid - 14/3/2013 07:22

80deg16minW - 13/3/2013 21:10

What are the penalties for opting out?

It would greatly reduce the quality of the PL for a start!

Trade sanctions, incoming and outgoing tourists (to/from the rest of Europe) will needs visa's..... it has its problems!

Absolutely none of that would happen..they weren't there before, so why would they be there after?

Just look at all the agreements Norway have with the EU - that would be the most likely model we'd adopt.

Thats exactly what I said to one of my friends who is pro EU a few weeks ago. Thing is, the rest of Europe would struggle far more than we would if we were to isolate ourselves. Laws would just end up being relaxed but we can be tougher on the ones we still want to be.

I think my mate is just worried as he's seeing a French bird, and he'd probably have to end up marrying her!

I'm for leaving the EU btw - was just answering the basics of 80's question

I actually don't want to leave the EU, but I also didn't and was never asked to hand over our soveriegnity the way we did under the treaty of lisbon...others got a referendum, we didn't.

There is no reason why the EU shouldn't have it's horns pulled in and we assert our national interest, none whatsoever. Everyone would be better off for it.

1. Ex you've been screaming to leave the EU on here for years.

2. Only Ireland had a referendum on the Treaty of Lisbon (and they made them vote twice!)
 
Galvin's Shinpads - 14/3/2013 13:57

Spursex - 14/3/2013 09:36

Dave the Yid - 14/3/2013 07:59

Spursex - 14/3/2013 07:28

Dave the Yid - 14/3/2013 07:22

80deg16minW - 13/3/2013 21:10

What are the penalties for opting out?

It would greatly reduce the quality of the PL for a start!

Trade sanctions, incoming and outgoing tourists (to/from the rest of Europe) will needs visa's..... it has its problems!

Absolutely none of that would happen..they weren't there before, so why would they be there after?

Just look at all the agreements Norway have with the EU - that would be the most likely model we'd adopt.

Thats exactly what I said to one of my friends who is pro EU a few weeks ago. Thing is, the rest of Europe would struggle far more than we would if we were to isolate ourselves. Laws would just end up being relaxed but we can be tougher on the ones we still want to be.

I think my mate is just worried as he's seeing a French bird, and he'd probably have to end up marrying her!

I'm for leaving the EU btw - was just answering the basics of 80's question

I actually don't want to leave the EU, but I also didn't and was never asked to hand over our soveriegnity the way we did under the treaty of lisbon...others got a referendum, we didn't.

There is no reason why the EU shouldn't have it's horns pulled in and we assert our national interest, none whatsoever. Everyone would be better off for it.

1. Ex you've been screaming to leave the EU on here for years.

2. Only Ireland had a referendum on the Treaty of Lisbon (and they made them vote twice!)

No, I just despised the way it's constituted; it should be a free trade area and no powers greater than that. Failing that, then yes, I want out.

Ireland were the only ones to get a vote on Lisbon, but they'd been referendums in 2005 (Holland and France) which had resulted in rejecting the EU constitution.

We'd been promised one here for most of Brown and Blairs reign...and also by Cameron of course..which did his utmost to slide out of..and now we need one on being in it at all...bring it on.