Ebola the new old Plague?

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I have been keeping an eye on the Ebola virus as i think we all do and can't help, and now a Briton has died from it in Macedonia fearing he has passed it onto his family, i have been wondering if this Ebola virus is the old plague similar returning and history repeating itself? I am pretty scared for my kids tbh

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ebola-british-national-dies-of-deadly-virus-in-macedonia-9785759.html
 
The old plague that most talk about in Europe, commonly called the bubonic (sp?) plague, passed on by flea bites or the mutated airborne version called the pneumonic plague is generally thought to be caused by a bacteria. It was not passed on by contact. Ebola is a highly contageous (meaning passed on by contact - a common mistake made is people often say contageous when they mean infectious) virus, there are no documented incidents of it being airborne. I'm glad to say that there is nothing, biologically speaking, that links the two.


 
Cheers VOTN dude, is interesting how some scientists are saying Ebola could mutate into airbourne passed on, time will tell lets hope not ay, and thanks for the insight into the plague i didn't know how that was passed on at all, thought it was coughs and cols sneezing etc, flee bites wow.
 
Yes, bubonic plague is an interesting one as it was only thought to be carried by one particular type of flea that lived one one particular type of rat so once they got rid of the rat they effectively got rid of the plague. As I'm sure you know, many fleas only like to live on one or two species but will happily "snack" on others and thats how it's believed to have spread.

 
Very interesting that dude, been reading about the scientists hoping to replicate the antibodies off the people who have survived Ebola and hope this may be the answer to a true cure, i suppose we just have to hope this virus doesn't spread to us and all over before a proper vaccine is created,
 
So am yo tellin me my thread title is a load of bollox then as it's nothing to do with the similarity i thought it had to the plague? lol
 
You've got to love our Clive!!!!

Stop reading the Daily Mail, mate, and get yourself on here. You'll get a much clearer idea of what's going on in the World!!!
 
Ebola isn't 'highly contagious' it's contagious. Highly contagious would be airborne and would be spreading quicker.

Here's some myths about Ebola -

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/09/ebola-highly-contagious-virus-myths-outbreak-epidemic
 
LOL yes i get more info and truth off here than the bs sputed in the media i agree!!

Cheers face dude, i think some scientists am just worried it could in the near future spread airbourne, let's hope not ay, although the scruffy ba**ad neighbour next to me i wouldn't miss ahem.
 
Clive - you should read Executive Orders by Tom Clancy. By the end of that you will be cacking yourself over Ebola. However the Americans win in the end.
 
Cheshire Villan - 10/10/2014 14:51

Clive - you should read Executive Orders by Tom Clancy. By the end of that you will be cacking yourself over Ebola. However the Americans win in the end.

:69: Will look out for that Cheshire dude, probably will scare the crap out of me though with my imagination and it's tendency to run wild, honestly if i get chance to sit down and read a book i am away and actually there if i take too it, i used to hate reading the Stephen King books whilst lovin them after reading so much going to be i would be looking round the room :3: we men am tough you know :139:
 
That is the main concern Clive, one of these nasty fucking diseases will become airborne, then we'll truly know what a crisis is!
 
I stock up on the kids food especially tins just in case, i know it sounds paranoid but i get years and years worth of use by date and its not a waste as its there in case i need it for them as if anything hits like this virus or anything at least i could keep the kids in and they would have food, why i do this is mainly everything is imported today or travelled from afar to stock the shelves, it only takes something to happen for there to be panic and food shortages, maybe i am crazy lol
 
Unless you go around touching infecting ebola patients or bodies chances are that you aren't going to get infected.

These diseases pop up time to time, make headline news and make every one paranoid, then after a while it fades away and everyone forgets about it (bird flu, SARS etc), whilst some are worse than others, and Ebola is very bad with a fatality rate of over 50%, it isn't going to turn the world as we know it into some post apocalyptic waste land like on TV or movies. It's not that contagious (it could mutate but then they say that about all of these viruses), and remember the high number of victims are mainly from Africa with a lot worse medical care, quality of life and sanitation / hygiene which contributes to the number of patients.
 
Two things Iv heard about Ebola...

1. ITs generally caught by coming in contact with the messy end of things

2. The kill rate and speed of death is so high and fast that it wipes itself before it can spread... i.e. could take out a village in a week and then its done...

Funnily enough there is a game I played on my phone it was about spreading a virus etc. and the goal was to wipe out all life on earth... What you learn is certain things can become so effective that it cannot spread quickly enough... The kill to spread ratio is too high and that is ebola...
 
thefacehead - 10/10/2014 16:25

That is the main concern Clive, one of these nasty fucking diseases will become airborne, then we'll truly know what a crisis is!

Nature will win in the end, and we just have to live with it. There are too many of us on this planet, so would it really be that bad if half of us were wiped out? And yes, I am aware I could be one of the ones to go, and I am comfortable with that.
 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 12/10/2014 10:49

thefacehead - 10/10/2014 16:25

That is the main concern Clive, one of these nasty fucking diseases will become airborne, then we'll truly know what a crisis is!

Nature will win in the end, and we just have to live with it. There are too many of us on this planet, so would it really be that bad if half of us were wiped out? And yes, I am aware I could be one of the ones to go, and I am comfortable with that.

Now if you would have said the nasty evil vermin on this earth being wiped out i would agree but life is about struggles and battles the whole point of life is to fight for survival, we am born into this corrupt world and our kids don't deserve to be caught up in the troubles this specie we am has caused imo, it is our duty to fight whatever nature or whatever the cause of these virus's throw at us or what is the point in any life in the universe starting out, it's like a boxer ebtering the ring and then throwing the towel in before the fight even starts due to thinking what's the point, there is always a point and our goal is to overcome what is thrown at us in this life that is what shows the strength of us all when we am tested.
 
We do fight, Clive, and we will continue to do so, but one day we won't have the weapons we need.

It's indiscriminate, in many ways, but if you look around, that's how Nature works. Species overbreed, and the ones less adapted to conditions die. The species is then stronger moving forward.

We have got an over-inflated opinion of ourselves, but at the end of the day we are subject to the same mechanisms every other animal is. We are just an Ape with a big brain.