Disabled people should get free parking.....

[mike_field]

Do largely agree with your next post though Northy in your response to JF.

But the NHS is supposed to be a backstop, if you want frills go private in many ways however bad that sounds.

It's an emergency point of call that should be free.

I know they are overhyped stories from the tabloids, but we can all pick out stories that however small in profilation (sp) cost and waste a crap load.

I can mention boob jobs for self esteem, I can equally mention lazy men with STI's because they couldn't use a condom etc. We hear how foreigners come over on NHS tours to get fixed, the EU sets a cost price the NHS doesn't enforce it even though they seem to have more accountants than nurses.

For wasted emergency service calls the NHS has a £650 fee, but seems reticent to use it to send a message about wastage from what I've read.

The whole thing could be streamlined but as soon as you say that somebody moans about privatisation. The only way to fix it is to start again in reality.

 

[Villan Of The North]

mike_field - 4/1/2018 00:30

Villan Of The North - 2/1/2018 15:32

Given the inceasing cost of healthcare due to new, more demanding procedures, the costs of new drugs and their development, and people living longer than even before (on average) I suspect removing all and evry form of corruption and profit making would still not provide funds sufficient to provide the services people want and expect from the NHS, although it would, clearly, improve the situation.

I'd argue the counter to be honest. Developing new drugs is not the realm of the NHS for a start and you could easily argue procedures are less demanding than ever with the advent of new technology.

True Mike BUT someone has had to develope the new drugs and equipment and they want paying for their investment in developement so it's still the NHS that ends up paying.

 

[mike_field]

But given the quantities available for purchasing, yes the NHS pays but the point remains the same. The pharma companies make their money elsewhere in reality, dealing with middlemen and charging extra to whitebrand products and market them etc.

In effect that's their market, ordering sizes of the NHS if done properly leads to discounts, but to loop it back how often do we see new products that we already had - quite often. Pharma covers themselves so there's wriggle room - especially if the wastage was stopped.