Bald Archie
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I was meaning the way those clubs have chopped and changed managers, so nothing stable is being built.
Player wise though, Chelsea appeared to down tools the season before last and that wasn't about money apparently.
I was meaning the way those clubs have chopped and changed managers, so nothing stable is being built.
Player wise though, Chelsea appeared to down tools the season before last and that wasn't about money apparently.
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Are you serious?
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I do wonder if us telling him that Rose is on the way out might persuade him to reconsider his 'stay at Fulham' stance, but with his brother staying there and his advisors telling him to stick - it's looking like a long shot no matter how big we bid...
Exclusive: Tottenham Hotspur have £25m bid for Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon rejected
Sessegnon is one of the hottest prospects in English football Credit: Getty Images
Sam Wallace, Chief Football Writer
15 August 2017 • 10:49am
Tottenham Hotspur have had a bid worth up to £25 million for the 17-year-old Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon rejected.
The England Under-19s international is one of the hottest properties in English football and is in the Fulham squad to face Leeds United at Elland Road tonight having signed his first professional deal in June with his childhood club. The size of the fee on offer reflects the expanding market and also the value placed on young English talent.
Spurs are also understood to be interested in Ryan’s twin brother Steven who made his first team debut in the EFL Cup against Wycombe in August. Both players signed their professional deals having turned 17 – the earliest age at which they could do so – on May 18. Both the boys, who grew up in Roehampton in south-west London, are happy at Fulham and have put no pressure on the club to sell them.
Paris Cowan-Hall of Wycombe Wanderers and Steven Sessegnon of Fulham battle for possesion during the Carabao Cup First Round match between Wycombe Wanderers and Fulham at Adams Park on August 8, 2017 in High Wycombe, Englan
Ryan’s twin brother Steven, here making his first team debut in the EFL Cup against Wycombe in August, is also attracting Spurs' attention Credit: Getty Images
The fee offered would be close to the £25.5 million Manchester United paid in August 2004 for an 18-year-old Wayne Rooney, still the most ever paid for an English teenage footballer.
Under the ownership of American billionaire Shahid Khan, and the stewardship of his son, the chairman Tony, the club are ambitious for promotion to the Premier League. They have refused to countenance the sale of midfielder Tom Cairney this summer and for the time being seem willing to reject an extraordinary amount of money for two products of the club’s outstanding academy.
There has been interest throughout the big Premier League clubs in the progress of Ryan in particular who played a full part in his team’s Championship season last time around, which ended in play-off defeat to Reading. As a left-sided English player he has a considerable value in the transfer market and the likes of Manchester United, Liverpool and Spurs all registered an interest before eventually he committed himself to the club long term.
The player has had a successful summer with England Under-19s who won their European championships in Georgia.
Exclusive: Tottenham Hotspur have £25m bid for Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon rejected
Sessegnon is one of the hottest prospects in English football Credit: Getty Images
Sam Wallace, Chief Football Writer
15 August 2017 • 10:49am
Tottenham Hotspur have had a bid worth up to £25 million for the 17-year-old Fulham prodigy Ryan Sessegnon rejected.
The England Under-19s international is one of the hottest properties in English football and is in the Fulham squad to face Leeds United at Elland Road tonight having signed his first professional deal in June with his childhood club. The size of the fee on offer reflects the expanding market and also the value placed on young English talent.
Spurs are also understood to be interested in Ryan’s twin brother Steven who made his first team debut in the EFL Cup against Wycombe in August. Both players signed their professional deals having turned 17 – the earliest age at which they could do so – on May 18. Both the boys, who grew up in Roehampton in south-west London, are happy at Fulham and have put no pressure on the club to sell them.
Paris Cowan-Hall of Wycombe Wanderers and Steven Sessegnon of Fulham battle for possesion during the Carabao Cup First Round match between Wycombe Wanderers and Fulham at Adams Park on August 8, 2017 in High Wycombe, Englan
Ryan’s twin brother Steven, here making his first team debut in the EFL Cup against Wycombe in August, is also attracting Spurs' attention Credit: Getty Images
The fee offered would be close to the £25.5 million Manchester United paid in August 2004 for an 18-year-old Wayne Rooney, still the most ever paid for an English teenage footballer.
Under the ownership of American billionaire Shahid Khan, and the stewardship of his son, the chairman Tony, the club are ambitious for promotion to the Premier League. They have refused to countenance the sale of midfielder Tom Cairney this summer and for the time being seem willing to reject an extraordinary amount of money for two products of the club’s outstanding academy.
There has been interest throughout the big Premier League clubs in the progress of Ryan in particular who played a full part in his team’s Championship season last time around, which ended in play-off defeat to Reading. As a left-sided English player he has a considerable value in the transfer market and the likes of Manchester United, Liverpool and Spurs all registered an interest before eventually he committed himself to the club long term.
The player has had a successful summer with England Under-19s who won their European championships in Georgia.
Nick Real Deal
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Is Rose toast ? Senior players have dismissed his comments. Lloris and Kane have tried to downplay the situation.
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According to Sky no bid was made.
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Just saw that, it's an odd one as he is generally one of the more sober honest football journalists he's not prone to making crap up and he is also known to be one of the few journalists that the hierarchy at Spurs will entertain...and occasionally the man to prise an interview out of Levy..
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They normally spend this last week making up rumours to fuel Sky Bet.
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FWIW I asked a mate who's attached to Fulham in a scouting role what he thought, he seemed to think all we'd done is ask what the position is with him/them (both brothers) and he thinks we got a blunt two-word answer...."even if we offered them £25 mill'...
So I guess we'll know soon enough., but sounds like we got told where to go again.
That relationship is a scandal that needs to be sorted out.
They make up a rumour and slash betting odds to fuel bets, then adjust the odds a few times with follow-on stories to try and keep it going, before finally moving on to the next 'rumour' and repeating the process.
Nick Real Deal
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How do Roses earnings compare to other Lbs in the PL ?
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Was watching some journalists on Premier League today and some guy named Sammy said that Rose was far from the only player at Spurs pissed off about their wages.
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Outside of ManC, Manure, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal - who have revenues far in excess of ours, he's paid the best of the rest - we know that because that's what's been consistently reported in the annual Sporting Intelligence wages report and that we've consistently and stubbornly remained the next biggest PL aggregate payer - the only time in the last 7/8 years that changed was when Aston Villa bough all and sundry and paid big wages and then imploded slowly thereafter when their revenues couldn't support their wage bill....
And thus, another billionaire went away licking his wounds and around £300-350 mill lighter..and left the club in tatters.
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Again, I'd have to point everyone/anyone to our policy of not paying more than 55% of revenues in wages, except for extreme circumstances and for a relatively short period of time - i.e. when Harry took over and we went out spending money and paying above our limit and we'ren't looking to achieve returns on sales - that occurred for around 18 months.
Our wages bill grew the season before last in line with our revenues (in excess of that isn't mandated by the PL fiscal restrictions guidelines) I expect to see similar growth in our overall wages costs for last season and for next after our raft or new extended better term deals were signed recently...
Our wages costs have remained remarkably consistent with upper limit as advised by UEFA and the PL - I expect that to continue as our revenues grow after stadium completion and thus increase our ability to compete with those who revenues are (at the moment) someway North of ours.
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With Bonus's, possibly more - but of course the bonus pool heavily depends on finishing position in the PL and progress in the CL and less so for domestic cups.
But you're almost certainly about right as of now.
It's worth understanding that their bonus payments for the CL for example could mean that if you look at the structure of the payments for progression through the stages and then add what would likely be our percentage of the marketing pool/TV rights - that if we made it through to the semi-final, we could as a club earn around £80-100 mill in additional revenues, of which most player contracts would be taking a round 20% net of that - so that's another 16-20 mill in payments to the CL squad, obviously with bigger bonus's attached to those who made the most appearances...
What Chelsea, Arsenal, ManC and Manure have done (and even Liverpool up until a couple of years back) would do is 'assume' CL qualification as part of the negotiated salary for players and that accounts for a significant difference in base line player contract payments.
Because of the contracts Liverpool had signed they had to keep those payments up, only recently has FSG changed the basis of how they pay closer to our model.
Just two years out of the CL for Chelsea, Manure and Arsenal would have a huge impact on their ability to pay enhanced contracts...
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Sky reports that Fulham are close to agreeing a loan deal for Porto's left back. Preparing for next summer, which is very smart.
Nick Real Deal
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Rose is on 65k , Shaw 70 and Baines about the same. So it's not like he is on much less than similar standard players.
