Silhillvilla
Vital Football Legend
Like I said, reckless
Crystal Palace v Aston Villa - Match Thread
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overlookedvillan
Vital Squad Member
Sorry Sil but you’re using a still to “prove” a point that gets undone by watching actual footage of the incident. You’re not winning this one.
I do agree that Doug’s tackling technique is poor however. He seems to try and win the ball with his hip. It needs work, but he’ll never be good at it.
Hopefully his positional play can make up for this.
Villan57
Alert Team
Best one I've seen was few weeks ago when Lansbury booted that bloke up in the air , then they showed the whole incident and you then understood the full context
Villan57
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He assumed Anwar would be still going and he was.
I think El Ghazi will do ok in this system where we don't play him so wide, he loves to come inside and shoot , (don't we all)
Well he did spend several years in Norwich, may be something in the water
Villan57
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No they just grow and extra finger on each hand, not eyes in the back of their heads as far as I knowWell he did spend several years in Norwich, may be something in the water
Platypus
Vital Football Hero
It's much worse than I originally thought: Based on this still Douggie's leg must have actually teleported through the Palace player's leg.
Or, you can't prove shit with a single 2 dimensional blurred still shot from your preferred angle.
Maybe you can write to the FA to ask for the red card to be reinstated.
Silhillvilla
Vital Football Legend
somebody said it wasn't studs up
Regardless of angle , it shows the studs are up , I was furious at the time as it looked like he was about to cost us valuable points again
gmvillan
The Shackles Are Off!
Anyone can make anything look the way they want with the benefit of slow motion and camera angles. Similarly, anyone who has ever played football knows exactly the type of challenge that was - step across the ball and use your leg/body to prevent the opponent winning it. I could freeze-frame every single tackle from every single match in the last ten years and say "if he'd made contact with the opponent it would have been a foul."
If Dougie's challenge was a cautionable offence then Kouyate, Saha and Milohilevic would have all been off before half-time.
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
Well , tbh I think you are sure .
overlookedvillan
Vital Squad Member
somebody said it wasn't studs up
We're getting too focused on this particular incident imo.
I agree with what I think is the core of your complaint, Doug is crap in the challenge. Let's be honest, he has put in silly challenges before, but I don't think we can use this one against him.
He looked okay when he came on, but I do get nervous when he's defending around our box... Ghazi and Buendia were the ones that really gave us a much needed energy boost when they came on.
gmvillan
The Shackles Are Off!
I like bizarre arguments. Just ask Mrs gmv (or my dog, or my cat)....
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
Luiz is being treated like Mings it seems. Is Luiz the only one , has Luiz been the only one who has made occasional bad or mistimed challenges? . The way it‘s portrayed is that there is a huge never ending list of misdemeanours.
Pretty sure there was a moment in the BHA match where I winced because I thought Marv had left one on one of their players. And I wasn’t the only one either. The lad behind me said red card straight away.
Similarly there was time where when Mings was blamed for every defensive lapse whether he was actually at fault or not . It becomes a focus and easy to concentrate on to suit at the expense of others doing similar . And it’s not a reason to sell Luiz nor is it because he is having a relationship with a female player from the club,
I too find bizarre that a brilliant away win has been overshadowed by the correct decision not to send one of our players off
Pretty sure there was a moment in the BHA match where I winced because I thought Marv had left one on one of their players. And I wasn’t the only one either. The lad behind me said red card straight away.
Similarly there was time where when Mings was blamed for every defensive lapse whether he was actually at fault or not . It becomes a focus and easy to concentrate on to suit at the expense of others doing similar . And it’s not a reason to sell Luiz nor is it because he is having a relationship with a female player from the club,
I too find bizarre that a brilliant away win has been overshadowed by the correct decision not to send one of our players off
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Villan57
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Luiz is being treated like Mings it seems. Is Luiz the only one , has Luiz been the only one who has made occasional bad or mistimed challenges? . The way it‘s portrayed is that there is a huge never ending list of misdemeanours.
Pretty sure there was a moment in the BHA match where I winced because I thought Marv had left one on one of their players. And I wasn’t the only one either. The lad behind me said red card straight away.
Similarly there was time where when Mings was blamed for every defensive lapse whether he was actually at fault or not . It becomes a focus and easy to concentrate on to suit at the expense of others doing similar . And it’s not a reason to sell Luiz nor is it because he is having a relationship with a female player from the club,
I too find bizarre that a brilliant away win has been overshadowed by the correct decision not to send one of our players off
In fairness, Mings has been pretty crap for about a year until the last two games when a blind man on a galloping horse can see he's back to doing the stuff he did when he first signed. He's been really good and back to his old self
Dougie is a good player, he's been out injured he will be back in the side every week under Steven, we aren't good enough to leave Brazillian international on the bench. He makes no more or no less silly tackle than McGinn or Marv or anyone else.
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Yup
and yup, potentially very good, but now he has to push on and if anyone can bring the best out of our midfielders, it will be Gerrard. The lunge on Sunday was reckless, not necessary and thank goodness he didn't connect. I am sure he will be told to be combative, but not reckless, we need all players on the pitch.
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Because it is the match thread and we are discussing incidents?
Looked reckless, lucky he didn't connect, was thankful it was turned from red to yellow, but having not long since been on, that was the last thing he needed to risk, being sent off.
Surely
Old Trinity Villan
Vital 1st Team Regular
Marvellous also does the odd mistimed tackle but he normally connects. He did a decent one against Brighton, was it Lampty he hurt. All teams do it, just dont get a Red doing it.
