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Polly 433 said:
enjoyed the pie. To say the vaccine was ineffective is still incorrect. Try evaporated milk or custard with it. That will make it just a bit sweeter, sweetie. See me.
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10.4% is ineffective, and it wasn't my quote it was the scientists who conducted the analysis.

Now run along simpleton
 
Calvin Plummer said:
No, far right big business nutcases. We know you believed in herd immunity but are you also a climate change denier? Do you support sweatshops so multinationals can make huge profits? Do you believe masks and social distancing are unscientific?
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Cool. An audience with Strett:

I believe in herd immunity, yes. The CMO was talking about it early on in the pandemic and a scientific paper was released recently suggesting we are close to it.
How can one not believe in herd immunity?

The climate does change, empirical evidence supports this. Buying British food is a great help that we can all do now as to avoid unnecessary food miles. Look for the Union Flag on produce.

You must be aware I don't support sweatshops, let's call them slaves as I have criticised China on here for such practices. I try to avoid clothing manufactured there and Bangladesh, and try to buy British made where possible.

Logic suggests masks work, but when you see how they are worn, under the nose, constant fiddling and touching of the face, then there may be an argument that their efficacy is reduced in real world. We have mandated instructions at my place of work how any PPE should be worn, under threat of disciplinary action. A facemask worn how I observe many being so, is 9/10th of fuck all effective.

Social distancing is obvious.

This is fun :-)
 
Covid pandemic over in Britain, say experts.

Vaccine rollout has led to drop in symptomatic infections by up to 90%, data show, leaving virus at controllable ‘endemic’ levels.

Britain is no longer in a pandemic, experts have said, as new data showed the vaccination programme is reducing symptomatic Covid infections by up to 90% cent.

In the first large real-world study of the impact of vaccination on the general population, researchers found that the rollout is having a major impact on cutting both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases.

Sarah Walker, Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at Oxford and Chief Investigator on the Office for National Statistics Covid-19 Infection Survey, said that Britain had ‘moved from a pandemic to an endemic situation’ where the virus is circulating at a low, largely controllable level in the community.

The new research, based on throat swabs from 373,402 people between December 1 last year and April 3, found three weeks after one dose of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca jab, symptomatic infections fell by 74% and infections without symptoms by 57%.

By two doses, asymptomatic infections were down 70 per cent and symptomatic by 90%.

So Boris, unlock the gates, let us out and allow [sic] us start living again.
 
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Strett said:
Covid pandemic over in Britain, say experts.

Vaccine rollout has led to drop in symptomatic infections by up to 90%, data show, leaving virus at controllable ‘endemic’ levels.

Britain is no longer in a pandemic, experts have said, as new data showed the vaccination programme is reducing symptomatic Covid infections by up to 90% cent.

In the first large real-world study of the impact of vaccination on the general population, researchers found that the rollout is having a major impact on cutting both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases.

Sarah Walker, Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at Oxford and Chief Investigator on the Office for National Statistics Covid-19 Infection Survey, said that Britain had ‘moved from a pandemic to an endemic situation’ where the virus is circulating at a low, largely controllable level in the community.

So Boris, unlock the gates, let us out and allow [sic] us start living again.
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I agree, who wants an endemic situation? That sounds shit. Let's get back to the pandemic again.
 
Strett said:
Covid pandemic over in Britain, say experts.

Vaccine rollout has led to drop in symptomatic infections by up to 90%, data show, leaving virus at controllable ‘endemic’ levels.

Britain is no longer in a pandemic, experts have said, as new data showed the vaccination programme is reducing symptomatic Covid infections by up to 90% cent.

In the first large real-world study of the impact of vaccination on the general population, researchers found that the rollout is having a major impact on cutting both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases.

Sarah Walker, Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at Oxford and Chief Investigator on the Office for National Statistics Covid-19 Infection Survey, said that Britain had ‘moved from a pandemic to an endemic situation’ where the virus is circulating at a low, largely controllable level in the community.

The new research, based on throat swabs from 373,402 people between December 1 last year and April 3, found three weeks after one dose of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca jab, symptomatic infections fell by 74% and infections without symptoms by 57%.

By two doses, asymptomatic infections were down 70 per cent and symptomatic by 90%.

So Boris, unlock the gates, let us out and allow [sic] us start living again.
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The same sarah walker was on tv this morning saying we need to be cautious in unlocking. Pandemic and endemic are defined terms, its not like a light switch.

After 100k dead people and a year of not a lot, well done to the people keeping mad king boris on-message.
 
radfordinlondon said:
The same sarah walker was on tv this morning saying we need to be cautious in unlocking. Pandemic and endemic are defined terms, its not like a light switch.

After 100k dead people and a year of not a lot, well done to the people keeping mad king boris on-message.
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Did you know when looking at age standardised mortality numbers, in England and Wales, with a view to seeing how mortality rates compare with other years, that every year up to and including 2008, had higher excess deaths than 2020?
 
Strett said:
Covid pandemic over in Britain, say experts.

Vaccine rollout has led to drop in symptomatic infections by up to 90%, data show, leaving virus at controllable ‘endemic’ levels.

Britain is no longer in a pandemic, experts have said, as new data showed the vaccination programme is reducing symptomatic Covid infections by up to 90% cent.

In the first large real-world study of the impact of vaccination on the general population, researchers found that the rollout is having a major impact on cutting both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases.

Sarah Walker, Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at Oxford and Chief Investigator on the Office for National Statistics Covid-19 Infection Survey, said that Britain had ‘moved from a pandemic to an endemic situation’ where the virus is circulating at a low, largely controllable level in the community.

The new research, based on throat swabs from 373,402 people between December 1 last year and April 3, found three weeks after one dose of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca jab, symptomatic infections fell by 74% and infections without symptoms by 57%.

By two doses, asymptomatic infections were down 70 per cent and symptomatic by 90%.

So Boris, unlock the gates, let us out and allow [sic] us start living again.
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but according to CP they are ineffective or as he is now arguing he quoted the 10% of scientific community who supposedly stated they were ineffective. Evidence suggests otherwise.
 
i am a tree said:
I agree, who wants an endemic situation? That sounds shit. Let's get back to the pandemic again.
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An endemic situation of having massive restrictions on personal freedoms maybe a Socialists wet dream, but not in any sphere will I embrace it a second longer than is necessary.

"Data not dates", well we are now sticking to dates and seemingly ignoring the data.
 
Strett said:
An endemic situation of having massive restrictions on personal freedoms maybe a Socialists wet dream, but not in any sphere will I embrace it a second longer than is necessary.

"Data not dates", well we are now sticking to dates and seemingly ignoring the data.
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mmm this isn't really about socialism at all though.
We need to be careful in releasing restrictions because we don't want to slide straight back into a pandemic and allow variants that are less affected by the vaccine to spread too fast.
I'm not saying we should stay restricted for longer than necessary, but we certainly should be trying to avoid future lockdowns as a priority over opening everything too fast.
 
i am a tree said:
mmm this isn't really about socialism at all though.
We need to be careful in releasing restrictions because we don't want to slide straight back into a pandemic and allow variants that are less affected by the vaccine to spread too fast.
I'm not saying we should stay restricted for longer than necessary, but we certainly should be trying to avoid future lockdowns as a priority over opening everything too fast.
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Completely disagree.
We can't keep the restrictions, on the off chance that we may get a vaccine-evading variant in the Autumn.
 
i am a tree said:
The thing is, you would be the first one to complain relentlessly in the Autumn if we have to go back into lockdown because of what you are asking for now.
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That's a moot point, because there will be no reason to lockdown. The vaccines have/will reduce mortality to that of fewer than a standard flu season.
Remember we locked down to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed, that has now happened.
What massive efforts should be put into, which was not done last summer, is increasing capacity of ICU, so the NHS can cope, treat and release which will nullify the requirement of lockdowns.
 
Strett said:
That's a moot point, because there will be no reason to lockdown. The vaccines have/will reduce mortality to that of fewer than a standard flu season.
Remember we locked down to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed, that has now happened.
What massive efforts should be put into, which was not done last summer, is increasing capacity of ICU, so the NHS can cope, treat and release which will nullify the requirement of lockdowns.
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You do realise that we are in the middle of easing restrictions, right?
Doing so in such a way that there will be a massive, unpredictable jump in cases is just stupid. I'm sorry, but no-one with half a brain would even try that.
 
i am a tree said:
You do realise that we are in the middle of easing restrictions, right?
Doing so in such a way that there will be a massive, unpredictable jump in cases is just stupid. I'm sorry, but no-one with half a brain would even try that.
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Wales has accelerated their roadmap.

The reopening of indoor activities for children, indoor organised activities for up to 15 adults, (exercise classes), and the reopening of community centres were all meant to happen on May 17. These have been brought forward to May 3 due to the low case rate in Wales.
Is it Harrold Bishop doppelganger, Drakeford doing a political move ahead of the Senedd elections? Dunno.

With are plummeting in England to the lowest number since September and coronavirus is no longer the leading cause of death, Johnson will be under mounting pressure to speed up plans to reopen society; and so he should.
 
Polly 433 said:
but according to CP they are ineffective or as he is now arguing he quoted the 10% of scientific community who supposedly stated they were ineffective. Evidence suggests otherwise.
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Lol science claimed they're only 10% effective against the SA variant. You on the other hand can't tell the difference between 10% and 90%.

Hmm which should I trust:

Peer reviewed scientific paper

Or

Clown who can't count?

That's a tough one...
 
Strett said:
Cool. An audience with Strett:

I believe in herd immunity, yes. The CMO was talking about it early on in the pandemic and a scientific paper was released recently suggesting we are close to it.
How can one not believe in herd immunity?

The climate does change, empirical evidence supports this. Buying British food is a great help that we can all do now as to avoid unnecessary food miles. Look for the Union Flag on produce.

You must be aware I don't support sweatshops, let's call them slaves as I have criticised China on here for such practices. I try to avoid clothing manufactured there and Bangladesh, and try to buy British made where possible.

Logic suggests masks work, but when you see how they are worn, under the nose, constant fiddling and touching of the face, then there may be an argument that their efficacy is reduced in real world. We have mandated instructions at my place of work how any PPE should be worn, under threat of disciplinary action. A facemask worn how I observe many being so, is 9/10th of fuck all effective.

Social distancing is obvious.

This is fun :-)
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Lol nice rewriting of history, you called for herd immunity through people just catching it. If we do achieve it (and you know variants change things) then it's because of vaccinating.

Weird answer with regard to climate change too
 
Strett said:
Buying British food is a great help that we can all do now as to avoid unnecessary food miles. Look for the Union Flag on produce.
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Yes because it’s not just like the supermarkets are pandering to the flag shagging gammons.

Have you been in a supermarket recently it’s like going on the fucking Shankhill Road
 
Forest-England said:
Saved by the NHS and the way they've handled the vaccinations.

Imagine if this corrupt govt had given the contracts to the NHS for test and trace they would've saved many lives. But the govt were too busy giving public money to their donors and mates.
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Lol.
The NHS is one of the most inefficient bodies ever, if this pandemic has proven anything, the NHS needs a grass roots modernisation.
 
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