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Pope John XXIII said:
I see the government is saying they will not be providing free school meals in half term.

Seriously, don't they learn?

Why bother refusing to do today what you know full well you'll be shamed into U-turning on tomorrow?
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The Tories can't do anything wrong it seems. They're still leading the polls.
They just don't care anymore.
 
Forest-England said:
It just backs up that the bbc is pro Tory. You can deny it all you want.
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There's a reason why the extremes on both flanks see the exact same bias but let me guess, they're all wrong and you're right? The Spectator/Telegraph/Express/Canary all make virtually identical claims, how can that be?

It's because zealots can only cope with echo chambers. Anything that doesn't agree with their narrow world view must be biased.

There's so little difference between the far left and those who stormed the Capital building...
 
Calvin Plummer said:
There's a reason why the extremes on both flanks see the exact same bias but let me guess, they're all wrong and you're right? The Spectator/Telegraph/Express/Canary all make virtually identical claims, how can that be?

It's because zealots can only cope with echo chambers. Anything that doesn't agree with their narrow world view must be biased.

There's so little difference between the far left and those who stormed the Capital building...
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The far left is about 1% of the left, who are pretty left of centre. The rights on the other hand are close to being far right who are already 10% of the tories
 
Calvin Plummer said:
There's a reason why the extremes on both flanks see the exact same bias but let me guess, they're all wrong and you're right? The Spectator/Telegraph/Express/Canary all make virtually identical claims, how can that be?

It's because zealots can only cope with echo chambers. Anything that doesn't agree with their narrow world view must be biased.

There's so little difference between the far left and those who stormed the Capital building...
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He donated nearly half a million to the Tories, how many chairmen of the BBC have donated that much to the Labour party. How many billionaire owners of newspapers vote labour?

Seriously you should read Manufacturing consent by Herman and Chomsky.
 
altho ive always considered the BBC middle class wankers supporting middle class wankers, when it comes to politics in recent years all they have done is slag off the tories, hard not to
 
InvincibleBrianMan said:
He donated nearly half a million to the Tories, how many chairmen of the BBC have donated that much to the Labour party. How many billionaire owners of newspapers vote labour?

Seriously you should read Manufacturing consent by Herman and Chomsky.
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Sure, you're outnumbered and that's a shame. I'd prefer the country took a step to the left (apart from those already teetering on the edges of zealotry) but that won't be happening anytime soon.

How many billionaire owners of newspapers vote Tory?

Murdoch can't vote here, I've never known Lord Rothermere say he's a Tory (but could be wrong), FT is Japanese owned, Trinity Mirror has no obvious owner. So that probably leaves us with one Barclay brother.

Undoubtedly folk are influenced by the media, but it's not a closed loop system - the media goes where it will make a profit and that's a reflection of the makeup of the UK, again sadly.

Might the BBC being pulled to the right? Yup. Might it have been historically Liberal leaning? Yup. Could you see the recent changes as both concering for it's independence and also a correction to reflect the people of the UK? Yup.

What I do know is the Tories fear it's impartiality, the BBC's desire to just present facts rather than editorialise. There is little space for popularit government to hide when a light is shone upon them.

But rather than support one of the few sources that still strives to offer facts and impartiality the left spews the same bile as the right. All the negativity and undermining does is add momentum to those who wish to see the BBC dismantled and replaced by a commercial organisation. I find it utterly bizarre that the left is so easily manipulated that you play the game on their terms so willingly.

Is the BBC perfect? God no. Is it a fuck sight better than any alternative anywhere in the world? God yes. But sure keep bitching away, the Tories thank you for your service.
 
Calvin Plummer said:
Sure, you're outnumbered and that's a shame. I'd prefer the country took a step to the left (apart from those already teetering on the edges of zealotry) but that won't be happening anytime soon.

How many billionaire owners of newspapers vote Tory?

Murdoch can't vote here, I've never known Lord Rothermere say he's a Tory (but could be wrong), FT is Japanese owned, Trinity Mirror has no obvious owner. So that probably leaves us with one Barclay brother.

Undoubtedly folk are influenced by the media, but it's not a closed loop system - the media goes where it will make a profit and that's a reflection of the makeup of the UK, again sadly.

Might the BBC being pulled to the right? Yup. Might it have been historically Liberal leaning? Yup. Could you see the recent changes as both concering for it's independence and also a correction to reflect the people of the UK? Yup.

What I do know is the Tories fear it's impartiality, the BBC's desire to just present facts rather than editorialise. There is little space for popularit government to hide when a light is shone upon them.

But rather than support one of the few sources that still strives to offer facts and impartiality the left spews the same bile as the right. All the negativity and undermining does is add momentum to those who wish to see the BBC dismantled and replaced by a commercial organisation. I find it utterly bizarre that the left is so easily manipulated that you play the game on their terms so willingly.

Is the BBC perfect? God no. Is it a fuck sight better than any alternative anywhere in the world? God yes. But sure keep bitching away, the Tories thank you for your service.
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Read the book then we can discuss the 5 filters and why you are so blinkered in your thinking. There is an echo chamber in the centre too chap.
 
Calvin Plummer said:
Sure, you're outnumbered and that's a shame. I'd prefer the country took a step to the left (apart from those already teetering on the edges of zealotry) but that won't be happening anytime soon.

How many billionaire owners of newspapers vote Tory?

Murdoch can't vote here, I've never known Lord Rothermere say he's a Tory (but could be wrong), FT is Japanese owned, Trinity Mirror has no obvious owner. So that probably leaves us with one Barclay brother.

Undoubtedly folk are influenced by the media, but it's not a closed loop system - the media goes where it will make a profit and that's a reflection of the makeup of the UK, again sadly.

Might the BBC being pulled to the right? Yup. Might it have been historically Liberal leaning? Yup. Could you see the recent changes as both concering for it's independence and also a correction to reflect the people of the UK? Yup.

What I do know is the Tories fear it's impartiality, the BBC's desire to just present facts rather than editorialise. There is little space for popularit government to hide when a light is shone upon them.

But rather than support one of the few sources that still strives to offer facts and impartiality the left spews the same bile as the right. All the negativity and undermining does is add momentum to those who wish to see the BBC dismantled and replaced by a commercial organisation. I find it utterly bizarre that the left is so easily manipulated that you play the game on their terms so willingly.

Is the BBC perfect? God no. Is it a fuck sight better than any alternative anywhere in the world? God yes. But sure keep bitching away, the Tories thank you for your service.
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Good post.
 
Calvin Plummer said:
There's a reason why the extremes on both flanks see the exact same bias but let me guess, they're all wrong and you're right? The Spectator/Telegraph/Express/Canary all make virtually identical claims, how can that be?

It's because zealots can only cope with echo chambers. Anything that doesn't agree with their narrow world view must be biased.

There's so little difference between the far left and those who stormed the Capital building...
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It’s capitol FFS


Them what stormed the CAPITOL building could OF been the final mail in Trumps coffin
 
InvincibleBrianMan said:
Read the book then we can discuss the 5 filters and why you are so blinkered in your thinking. There is an echo chamber in the centre too chap.
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Just google defund the bbc most of the absolute ***** on there make Mr Hitler look like a left wing pansy poet socialist


We’re going to lose the BBC as the Tories don’t want anyone to actually learn anything & you anti Semitic guardian Reading middle class ***** will clap along supporting it because they didn’t carry cat weasel saint Jeremy of Corbyn around on a fucking sedan chair.
 
France are now under a strict 1800hrs to 0600hrs curfew.

If people are wondering whether bringing curfew forward from 2000hrs to 1800hrs really makes much difference, it is to counter the apéro effect, where the Franchies meet up for a pre-dinner drink.

Of course in these dark days here, one always forgets about France, which has always been the natural way for an Englishman to feel better about himself.
 
Strett said:
France are now under a strict 1800hrs to 0600hrs curfew.

If people are wondering whether bringing curfew forward from 2000hrs to 1800hrs really makes much difference, it is to counter the apéro effect, where the Franchies meet up for a pre-dinner drink.

Of course in these dark days here, one always forgets about France, which has always been the natural way for an Englishman to feel better about himself.
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How do their deaths compare to ours?
 
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