Strett
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So they’ve taken back control of their borders?
Not on the way out, no.
So they’ve taken back control of their borders?
That's a very odd way of framing the mortality, but let's go with it.
We need to be 100% clear on this, these people who sadly passed away did not die from Covid, they died with Covid.
Covid was not necessarily the cause of death.
That daily figure quoted is the number of deaths of people who had a positive test result for covid and died within 28 days of the first positive test.
I know, through tragic stories from Mrs Strett that people contract Covid whilst they are in palliative (end of life) care in hospital. I know that people who are in severe RTAs and induced comas, die with covid present in their bodies. These two of many examples form the daily figures.
Is there a more accurate way of presenting these figures? Don't know, but they are damn useful in keeping a scared public on side, when extra measures are deemed necessary by SAGE members with absolutely nothing to lose.
IMO, they should stop reporting it.
Most of the country are as safe as they can be, thanks to the tremendous efforts of all involved with the vaccination program, along with natural immunity and normalised behaviour.
Why not publish the daily mortality figures from dementia or cancer, as we are far more at risk of dying from those. There there is a lot of scientific evidence that suggests changing lifestyles will massively reduce individual risk.
It's time the nation's overall health was given as much of a spotlight, but I fear the fallout from this will take much longer and cost much more than a National Insurance increase.
Not on the way out, no.
Ok I’ll bite, do you know how hard & with such dignity do a great many people work in palliative care? Yes it can seem like the COVID19 figure is being inflated but to write it off because they were going to die anyway is as disgusting as the butcher & his not killing the economy for the over 80’s.
the absolute main concern for any politician should be to keep its citizens alive not keeping taxes low for landlords, Tory donors & Russian oligarchs
I framed it that way because they were almost adjacent items on last night's news. A long piece about the awful events in Paris, followed by a very brief side note that more people had died with covid here today. And yesterday. And tomorrow, and etc.That's a very odd way of framing the mortality, but let's go with it.
We need to be 100% clear on this, these people who sadly passed away did not die from Covid, they died with Covid.
Covid was not necessarily the cause of death.
That daily figure quoted is the number of deaths of people who had a positive test result for covid and died within 28 days of the first positive test.
I know, through tragic stories from Mrs Strett that people contract Covid whilst they are in palliative (end of life) care in hospital. I know that people who are in severe RTAs and induced comas, die with covid present in their bodies. These two of many examples form the daily figures.
Is there a more accurate way of presenting these figures? Don't know, but they are damn useful in keeping a scared public on side, when extra measures are deemed necessary by SAGE members with absolutely nothing to lose.
IMO, they should stop reporting it.
Most of the country are as safe as they can be, thanks to the tremendous efforts of all involved with the vaccination program, along with natural immunity and normalised behaviour.
Why not publish the daily mortality figures from dementia or cancer, as we are far more at risk of dying from those. There is a lot of scientific evidence that suggests changing lifestyles will massively reduce individual risk.
It's time the nation's overall health was given as much of a spotlight, but I fear the fallout from this will take much longer and cost much more than a National Insurance increase.
I framed it that way because they were almost adjacent items on last night's news. A long piece about the awful events in Paris, followed by a very brief side note that more people had died with covid here today. And yesterday. And tomorrow, and etc.
I actually agree with some bits of your first paragraph that - today - the number is likely to be an over estimate of people dying *from* covid but it is difficult to tell. Having covid certainly doesn't make you better!
"*WITH* COVID!!!" has, unfortunately, been the battle cry of deniers/hoaxers/poorly informed folk throughout - when it was very clearly wrong.
There are still many people hospitalised because of covid, some are still dying every day. That's what happens when you multiply a small number by a very large number. Sadly, the pandemic isn't yet over.
The bit of your post about SAGE/SPECTRE is offensive, conspiracy theory, twaddle, of course.
Very, very sad for a new 'lost generation'.
Children as young as 10 believe the pandemic will change the rest of their life, a new study suggests.
Co-op's survey of more than 5,000 10- to 25-year-olds found that nearly two-thirds of young people said their generation would be permanently disadvantaged by the impact of the coronavirus crisis.
Two out of three said competition to get a job had already increased so it felt "impossible" to find work, while almost a third said the pandemic had made them less likely to continue with further education.
Almost three in five respondents said the Government had failed them in its handling of Covid.
So you would say that people who had their university education face to face with actual teachers aren't at an advantage over those who had their university education over zoom?Strett, this post of yours paints a pretty poor picture of the young people in the UK , that is if the Co-op survey is correct, and I hope it's not. I've got 6 grandchildren in that age bracket and not one of them thinks like that. And they are all working in some form or other even though we are in our 10th week of lockdown with at least another 6 to follow if everything goes right.
Permanently disadvantaged, good job they're not involved in a real war or living in a country where vaccines are not available.
One point that does sound as though it could be nearer the mark though is the point about the Govt failing in its handling of Covid. Ours is the same.
sound like things that woul happen in a movie where a highly infectious virus is running loose and has the power to damage a global economy and kill millions of peopleWell normal here will be the pantomime of masks, scotch eggs, regional lockdowns, Christmas cancelled at the last minute, a new variant, park benches decommissioned, and then some bollocks new vaccine which definitely works this time.
I think he said the right to work and live.I'm not saying the EU site is wrong, no. What I am showing you is the French rules for living in metropolitan France as an EU citizen; which are not automatic, as I have shown.
they didnt lose the years, that just silly, they wernt put into cyrosleep., they just had to entertain themselves for18 monthsI feel so sorry for 21 year olds (never thought I’d say that) they’ve lost the best years of their lives I can’t imagine losing that 18 months it’s just be horrific & now you’ve got boomers walking around supermarkets with no mask whinging about migrant boats.
So you would say that people who had their university education face to face with actual teachers aren't at an advantage over those who had their university education over zoom?
How about people who weren't able to find a job for over a year because of the pandemic, would you say they are at a disadvantage compared to those who were working?
There are some age groups who suffered alot because of this, not least students taking exams and those who expected to start work over the last year, but then couldn't.
Do you know how hard it is to find a job when you've been out of work? I'll tell you, whether its because of the pandemic or not, people don't want to hire someone with a recent gap in their CV.
At some point, the fact that people aren't having to fight in a war stops being a useful counter point to people's lack of employment choices. If you think about it, it doesn't even make sense to bring it up in this context.
they didnt lose the years, that just silly, they wernt put into cyrosleep., they just had to entertain themselves for18 months