JC21
Vital Football Hero
Because it's a two-way street, so it makes it easier for them at the bottom by not having to compete with an unlimited supply of cheap foreign labour
#COVID19
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Strett
Vital Football Hero
So you have deflected away from arguing that you need the means to live in France, to redefining what ‘automatic’ means.
AdebolaCornflakes
Vital Football Legend
But do you think it does?
Strett
Vital Football Hero
Which is a benefit of Brexit we are seeing now, wages are increasing for low skilled employees.
Strett
Vital Football Hero
The majority yes, it’s not for the few who wish to retire to their villa in Tuscany though.
AdebolaCornflakes
Vital Football Legend
But given what Strett has said about living and working in France, couldn't the UK have introduced stricter requirements to live here whilst in the EU?
JC21
Vital Football Hero
But given what Basha says, then no
Strett
Vital Football Hero
No, it’s ‘automatic’ isn’t it?
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AdebolaCornflakes
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So which one is correct?
JC21
Vital Football Hero
Ya know something duck, I don't know why I got involved. For the most part of my life now I've decided to not let things like this bother me. I don't have a casting vote on Labour/Tory, leave/remain, etc, etc so it basically doesn't make the slightest bit of difference what I, you, Strett, Basha or anyone thinks. Whatever will be will be, we aren't going to change the world on a football forum, are we?
orbitalforest
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Going to Malta for a few days on Friday to visit my brother , what a pain in the arse sorting out all this covid crap has been though , wish i hadn't bothered , really stressful.
Basha73
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No I have maintained it is an automatic right which the literature confirms. You tried to say that because there were other parameters it wasn’t automatic. But if it makes you feel better…?
Basha73
Vital Football Legend
Nope. Keep trying. And maybe read the EU website… If you don’t like the fact that they have defined it as an automatic right then maybe take it up with them…
radfordinlondon
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Well the big ones were freedom of movement and work.
radfordinlondon
Vital Football Legend
Well there is definitely at least one child on this fred, we should ask strett if he is ok
Strett
Vital Football Hero
Who said I don’t?
in_the_top_one
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191 covid deaths yesterday and going up.
Weekly average is 133 people dying every day.
It's a lot of people, isn't it?
There were 130 victims of IS murderers at the Bataclan theatre.
Right now it is worse than a Bataclan death toll every single day.
A 9/11 death toll every 2.5 weeks.
Yet it barely makes the news. Extraordinary times. Life seems to be becoming cheaper.
Weekly average is 133 people dying every day.
It's a lot of people, isn't it?
There were 130 victims of IS murderers at the Bataclan theatre.
Right now it is worse than a Bataclan death toll every single day.
A 9/11 death toll every 2.5 weeks.
Yet it barely makes the news. Extraordinary times. Life seems to be becoming cheaper.
Strett
Vital Football Hero
That's a very odd way of framing the mortality, but let's go with it.
We need to be 100% clear on this, these people who sadly passed away did not die from Covid, they died with Covid.
Covid was not necessarily the cause of death.
That daily figure quoted is the number of deaths of people who had a positive test result for covid and died within 28 days of the first positive test.
I know, through tragic stories from Mrs Strett that people contract Covid whilst they are in palliative (end of life) care in hospital. I know that people who are in severe RTAs and induced comas, die with covid present in their bodies. These two of many examples form the daily figures.
Is there a more accurate way of presenting these figures? Don't know, but they are damn useful in keeping a scared public on side, when extra measures are deemed necessary by SAGE members with absolutely nothing to lose.
IMO, they should stop reporting it.
Most of the country are as safe as they can be, thanks to the tremendous efforts of all involved with the vaccination program, along with natural immunity and normalised behaviour.
Why not publish the daily mortality figures from dementia or cancer, as we are far more at risk of dying from those. There is a lot of scientific evidence that suggests changing lifestyles will massively reduce individual risk.
It's time the nation's overall health was given as much of a spotlight, but I fear the fallout from this will take much longer and cost much more than a National Insurance increase.
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Woanz
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So they’ve taken back control of their borders?
