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Covid 19

nitram77

Vital 1st Team Regular
I think a local mayor would have the power to impose a local lockdown if he thinks it's needed. He would of course then have to take the flak from those who disagree with it.
 

sunnyinkent

Vital Reserves Team
I think there is something available at this time in U.K. laboratories , but it has to be stored at very low temperature. and this is a problem, but I believe this will be available soon.
 

Nobby_66

Vital 1st Team Regular
I think a local mayor would have the power to impose a local lockdown if he thinks it's needed. He would of course then have to take the flak from those who disagree with it.
I believe local councils have that power and have had for some weeks. Our local Councillor threatened to lock down Southend when the beaches were getting overcrowded a few weeks ago.
However, as you say, they would be left with lots of unhappy businesses that rely on summer trade to get them through the rest of the year.
 

shotshy

Vital 1st Team Regular
So today the ONS report that the five year average death rate was down for the sixth consecutive week.
I wonder if this continues for a longer term, it will confirm my theory that the covid crisis just accelerated many deaths that were inevitable in the short term.
Time will tell.
 

Nobby_66

Vital 1st Team Regular
So today the ONS report that the five year average death rate was down for the sixth consecutive week.
I wonder if this continues for a longer term, it will confirm my theory that the covid crisis just accelerated many deaths that were inevitable in the short term.
Time will tell.
Definitely, also heard a virologist on LBC saying that this year is showing record low figures for deaths from flu so many flu deaths are presumably being counted as covid19....or no one is getting flu obviously 🙄
 

markinkent

Vital 1st Team Regular
So today the ONS report that the five year average death rate was down for the sixth consecutive week.
I wonder if this continues for a longer term, it will confirm my theory that the covid crisis just accelerated many deaths that were inevitable in the short term.
Time will tell.

Agreed for all those who had underlying health conditions.

There are of course some who had no underlying health conditions but as you say the majority probably did.

It seems to me that the realisation that CPAP can be effective treatment probably saved many from being put on ventilators.

I expect a big increase in the winter months though, combination of a change from outdoor to indoor living and the usual seasonal flu
 

shotshy

Vital 1st Team Regular
Flu is usually much worse for older people just like covid.
Of the 29,650 people that have died in hospital with covid present, only 232 were under 40 and most of those had underlying issues .
Most of the others were in care homes and obviously vulnerable or they wouldn’t be in a care home.
It’s the Boomer Remover.
 

Trashbat

Vital Squad Member
Deloitte ffs. An accountacy firm. What the f#ck do they know about public health issues?
I suspect this is a blind spot for you ‘58. The Big4 do more than just accountancy. They do a lot of consultancy work in the NHS and have specialised teams with a wealth of knowledge about health.
 

Gills 58

Vital 1st Team Regular
I suspect this is a blind spot for you ‘58. The Big4 do more than just accountancy. They do a lot of consultancy work in the NHS and have specialised teams with a wealth of knowledge about health.
Wot Rotherhithe said in the next post.

Chronic failure to use local expertise and join the dots.
 

jogills

Vital 1st Team Regular
So today the ONS report that the five year average death rate was down for the sixth consecutive week.
I wonder if this continues for a longer term, it will confirm my theory that the covid crisis just accelerated many deaths that were inevitable in the short term.
Time will tell.
All deaths are inevitable after the event. Many deaths come much sooner than expected. Covid has killed lots of people, including the collaterals, it will kill many more worldwide. It won't stop until it is stopped, everywhere.
 

shotshy

Vital 1st Team Regular
Given that international travel was the main driver of the pandemic, I’m quite amazed that so many want to continue international travel.
 

SE1_Gills

Vital Squad Member
I was in Tesco last night just about to pick up a net of Kiwi fruit, when a woman (not wearing a mask) said "I don't know how you can wear a mask, I tried and hated it."
I just turned and replied, "Well if you hate wearing a mask, you are really not going to like the ventilator".
What a response 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
 

markinkent

Vital 1st Team Regular
I am surprised at how many I see without masks in shops. Its not optional, but in this country compliance with rules is increasingly becoming optional.

I dont blame the police but they are increasingly becoming peace keepers not law enforcement.

Our society is increasingly selfish and people know that the police won't intervene and even if they do the courts will let people off.

Beginning to think we need a bit more dictatorship and a bit less guidance to rid us of Covid-19