Coronavirus
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Whitehouse publicly gives up on controlling Covid19 in the US
https://us.cnn.com/2020/10/25/polit...rolling-coronavirus-pandemic-cnntv/index.html
https://us.cnn.com/2020/10/25/polit...rolling-coronavirus-pandemic-cnntv/index.html
Of course we do. We can make reasonable estimates based on excess deaths and official statistics.
Current estimates suggest between 45k to 60k. If you want to dispute that, provide evidence. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and stop disrespecting the many people and their families who have died from thiscterrible disease.
Current estimates suggest between 45k to 60k. If you want to dispute that, provide evidence. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and stop disrespecting the many people and their families who have died from thiscterrible disease.
Seriously, I'll go with you to an acute covid ward and we can watch people take their last agonising, gasping death together. We can watch them die and see the terrible fear in their eyes.
I've got the balls to do it. Have you?
Harry57, Bazzzer, Imp79, Swedishimp? Any fucking offers, you utter cowards?
I've got the balls to do it. Have you?
Harry57, Bazzzer, Imp79, Swedishimp? Any fucking offers, you utter cowards?
If I’m completely honest, I’m torn - I think the cases are likely to have exaggerated by mass testing, unreliable tests and recording asymptonstic patients.
Do I think the deaths have been (aside from the initial cock up) exaggerated.. no.
Do I still think deaths happens and an unavoidable part of life .. yes.
Do I have every sympathy for the people and families effected by covid .. yes, but I also have sympathy for the people who’s cancer treatment has been delayed or gone undiagnosed.
Will I wear a face masks out in public.. yes, but I doubt how many people are washing / disposing of their face masks after every use..
Do I think the deaths have been (aside from the initial cock up) exaggerated.. no.
Do I still think deaths happens and an unavoidable part of life .. yes.
Do I have every sympathy for the people and families effected by covid .. yes, but I also have sympathy for the people who’s cancer treatment has been delayed or gone undiagnosed.
Will I wear a face masks out in public.. yes, but I doubt how many people are washing / disposing of their face masks after every use..
My comment at the time was addressing the lack of consistency over the reporting methods from the home nations. My second comment was to say that there appeared to be consistency at that later time.
Both comments were accurate. I fail to see the reason for your aggression.
Yesterday's official death figure was 151. I'm surprised you weren't able to find that for yourself.
Both comments were accurate. I fail to see the reason for your aggression.
Yesterday's official death figure was 151. I'm surprised you weren't able to find that for yourself.
A fair and honest reply.
On the point about cancer, we know two people who had their treatment paused - one our next-door neighbour. Both survived and are back on treatment, but some won't have.
I think the point about this is that a well-prepared government and public health service should be able to maintain a minimum level of acute care during this kind of pandemic.
I haven't checked, to be honest, but I'm willing to bet Germany were able to do so in the first wave of coronavirus for their cancer (and other acute) patients.
Unfortunately, we had a government who ignored the 2016 pandemic report and were not remotely prepared and, by extension, hadn't prepared the health service, either.
I don't even think this is especially a party-political point. I doubt Labour would have done much better in the current political climate. There are only two governments in my life-time I'd have thought might have done better: Thatcher's and Blair's.
On the point about cancer, we know two people who had their treatment paused - one our next-door neighbour. Both survived and are back on treatment, but some won't have.
I think the point about this is that a well-prepared government and public health service should be able to maintain a minimum level of acute care during this kind of pandemic.
I haven't checked, to be honest, but I'm willing to bet Germany were able to do so in the first wave of coronavirus for their cancer (and other acute) patients.
Unfortunately, we had a government who ignored the 2016 pandemic report and were not remotely prepared and, by extension, hadn't prepared the health service, either.
I don't even think this is especially a party-political point. I doubt Labour would have done much better in the current political climate. There are only two governments in my life-time I'd have thought might have done better: Thatcher's and Blair's.
