danvilla2
I’m not an expert
This is going to get ridiculous in my opinion. Watch Manchester get special treatment and no where else.
Coronavirus
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This is going to get ridiculous in my opinion. Watch Manchester get special treatment and no where else.
mike_field
Vital Football Legend
Government newspaper adverts explaining the coronavirus tiers in at least two places were wrong, it has emerged.
The ads were in Bradford's Telegraph and Argus and the Hexham Courant this week. Both said the current alert level was medium, when it is in fact high.
Bradford South Labour MP Judith Cummins said it was "more staggering incompetence from a government that is losing its grip on this pandemic".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54571866
The ads were in Bradford's Telegraph and Argus and the Hexham Courant this week. Both said the current alert level was medium, when it is in fact high.
Bradford South Labour MP Judith Cummins said it was "more staggering incompetence from a government that is losing its grip on this pandemic".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54571866
mike_field
Vital Football Legend
Maybe not - it seems the Gov think there's more talking to be done as opposed to a deal getting agreed?
However, it seems Manchester know nothing about those further talks.
People in Greater Manchester are facing confusion over Covid-19 rules, as local leaders denied Downing Street's claim that talks have been arranged to resolve a row.
No 10 told the BBC it had arranged a call with the region's mayor, Andy Burnham, on Sunday morning.
But Mr Burnham's office said no such call had been scheduled.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54584583
Piss up and brewery don't quite do it justice.
mike_field
Vital Football Legend
Out of it's depth - I don't think it had one to begin with! lol
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
For those that still say it is no worse than flu
But it is more deadly than flu
The number of people that die after catching the virus, known as the infection fatality rate, is about 0.5%. Or one death in every 200 people infected.
That is five to 25 times more deadly than a seasonal flu infection, despite ongoing myths that Covid is just like flu.
Influenza kills between 0.02% and 0.1% of people who are infected.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54570373
But it is more deadly than flu
The number of people that die after catching the virus, known as the infection fatality rate, is about 0.5%. Or one death in every 200 people infected.
That is five to 25 times more deadly than a seasonal flu infection, despite ongoing myths that Covid is just like flu.
Influenza kills between 0.02% and 0.1% of people who are infected.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54570373
Devils advocate, does that justify bankrupting the western world, with all the other massive social problems that will bring, and condeming people with cancer and heart problems to an early death.
Yes get where you are coming from, it remains to be seen if us and other countries live to regret it.
Villan57
Alert Team
My Son in Laws Mother had breast cancer and now has Heart problems, her heart is only working 40% Covid will kill her. Hence her shielding from idiots since December.
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Will be difficult in some ways, to know, because we won't know what would have happened if there had been no restrictions and lockdowns.
This is nature doing what nature does, trying to cull the weakest in the herd. But, and there still isnt' that much being said about it - I guess more will come out as time progresses and there are more instances - there are people who were fit and strong now suffering from long covid, post viral, and so on.
Sounds like it is a very clever, and destructive virus.
It is a nightmare isn't it?
And what are the rights and wrongs? If I had needed a brain op in this country, what do you do as a surgeon. Book it in and hope ICU isn't needed? IF it is needed (it was first time around) then how risky on top of already being ill enough to need it, would it be to be in an ICU full of people with COVID. Is there capacity for two ICU's and so on.
As you rightly say, people are/will die of other things due to the way the focus has been on COVID and maybe only time will tell what was right or wrong. Maybe we won't ever know.
This is nature doing what nature does, trying to cull the weakest in the herd. But, and there still isnt' that much being said about it - I guess more will come out as time progresses and there are more instances - there are people who were fit and strong now suffering from long covid, post viral, and so on.
Sounds like it is a very clever, and destructive virus.
It is a nightmare isn't it?
And what are the rights and wrongs? If I had needed a brain op in this country, what do you do as a surgeon. Book it in and hope ICU isn't needed? IF it is needed (it was first time around) then how risky on top of already being ill enough to need it, would it be to be in an ICU full of people with COVID. Is there capacity for two ICU's and so on.
As you rightly say, people are/will die of other things due to the way the focus has been on COVID and maybe only time will tell what was right or wrong. Maybe we won't ever know.
Thats kind of the point.
Has she been able to get all the treatment she would normally get for her cancer and heart problems when it was required.
Its a bit of a catch 22.
I do find it strange that there is large capacity in the Nightingale hospitals, and it is not being used, but they choose to fill up ICU first.
mike_field
Vital Football Legend
Also about staffing levels isn't it with the Nightingale's.
Villan57
Alert Team
Yes, no problems with anything as far as I know. She does it remotely as going to a Hospital full of covid patients would be suicide. She had the mastectomy in November last year.
Villan57
Alert Team
Yes ITU nurses are specialists and you don't just pick them up in Tesco.
So what was the point of building them if they dont have the staff.
Were they a public relations exercise.
