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So as I understand it the single parent factory worker with 3 kids under 7 and no child care because of lockdown has to go to work. While the single guy would lives in Mummy and Daddy's posh house in Surrey and works in the city doesn't and can go for a game of tennis or go and sun bathing on the beach.That sounds very fair to me if you are a upper class twitt.

 
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I hear some Brighton football players have been found to have coronavirus - does that mean they have been 'socialising' too closely?
 
I hear some Brighton football players have been found to have coronavirus - does that mean they have been 'socialising' too closely?
Three all at once if they haven't seen each other for a couple of months sounds one heck of a coincidence.

Have they all met Boris a few weeks ago perhaps?
 
This is the reaso for those messages on coffee cups, nothing whjatever to do with individual stupidity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants

Seems like Wayne was right.

Well the law decided it was 80% McDonald's fault and 20% stupidity on the woman's part.

But the point that was being made was that sometimes people are too stupid to understand the obvious so you have to clearly and specifically spell it out.

I suspected someone might bring up the McDonald's case and wanted to change the comment to peanuts, but since I was quoting someone else then I remained faithful.

Here is a parallel example:

(source: http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2019/...n-because-theres-no-warning-it-contains-nuts/)
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Apparently there are some people who were unaware that a food product that clearly says it contains "Peanuts, Pecan & Walnuts" contains nuts and are therefore unsuitable for people with nut allergies.

Yes of course the warning signs are there as a defence against litigation but do people really need to be told that a hot drink is hot and therefore shouldn't be held between your legs while you sit in your car or that peanut spread contains nuts?
 
The reason for the warnings on coffee cups was the McDonalds case. There were no warnings on cups prior to that. People don't need to be told about the hotness of hot drinks. Companies feel the need to protect themselves against litigation. Generally it is reasonable to issue warnings that allow for a range of understanding, attention and experience.

The majority of "accidents" involve a combination of negligence, or malpractice by a higher authority/employer, or an individual and happenstance.

This government will not get off the hook by encouraging the idea that individual stupidity was to blame for their failings.
 
But the point that was being made was that sometimes people are too stupid to understand the obvious so you have to clearly and specifically spell it out.
I suspect you have not been in an environment where H & S is paramount. You have to state the bleeding obvious over and over again. On my last project in Kuwait, we achieved 4 million man-hours without a single lost time accident and that included daily briefings to office staff as well as construction workers; plus. specific safety cases for various tasks (hot/enclosed working etc).
 
The reason for the warnings on coffee cups was the McDonalds case. There were no warnings on cups prior to that.

As per the wiki article you posted

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so it is incorrect to say the McDonald's case was the trigger for warnings on cup. It did raise a talking point as to how big the warning needs to be though.

People don't need to be told about the hotness of hot drinks.

And yet companies need to put warnings on their cups warning people that hot drinks are hot.

Anyway, I feel we are going a little off topic arguing a point that I never actually made. I was responding to the point someone else made and I can't be bother to scroll back half a dozen pages to check, that from the government guideline of

"Think about what you do in a typical week and what steps you would need to take to limit non-essential contact with others"

that it should be obvious that people shouldn't be socialising in large groups.
 
Are people stupid if they see a good case for compo? “I bought a hot coffee which didn’t have a warning on it. As a result I’ve got the smallest of blisters on my lip. Give me compo.” Same with caution: wet” signs.
 
My point is the people who will struggle with what was said today probably didn't have the intelligence or conscience before and were already breaking lockdown.


Exactly, remember:

Spreading Covid-19 is based on just two factors -

How Dense the population is and, how Dense the population is - unfortunately, some have a problem figuring out which category they belong in.