Correct imo. What Starmer realises is that firstly Labour has to appear credible and competent. This will take time. Obviously we need a vision but the last "leadership" was all vision and complete lack of competence.Me neither though Corbyn's statement was deliberate and precipitate. He knew what he was doing and will definitely still carry some sentiment with him. Starmer won't be over worried by resignations and can only win from the situation at present as it allows him to show that he meant what he said.
Centrism is all very well but times are changing fast and the centre is moving in favour of state action, intervention and welfare. Once the dust settles Starmer needs to be thinking about his vision and it needs to be more than I'm a sensible chap.
It's about time Labour stopped thinking that being in opposition just means they have to disagree with everything the Tories say, particularly at the current time. If they just show common sense, show they're trying to work with the Government to get through this and that they'll deal with highlighting the failings afterwards then they'll walk the next election. Otherwise Sunak will step into Boris's shoes and win.Agree jogills.
I want to see potential policies laid out for inspection.
He’s ridden on the coat tails of Johnson’s incompetence so far.
It’s coming to the time to show the country what he’s about.
maybe if alexander asked for some input it would be forthcoming.It's about time Labour stopped thinking that being in opposition just means they have to disagree with everything the Tories say, particularly at the current time. If they just show common sense, show they're trying to work with the Government to get through this and that they'll deal with highlighting the failings afterwards then they'll walk the next election. Otherwise Sunak will step into Boris's shoes and win.
(Not that I want a Labour Government any more than I want a Tory or Lib Dem/Green/SNP/whatever one, they're all currently, and recently, as bad as each other)
Starmers main job is distancing himself from Momentum and making it clear that they do not speak for the Labour Party.
I’d go as far as totally ignoring them in the hope that they all piss off back to the fringes.
There’s no place for the alleged broad church if we hope to get elected.
Nice theory but the only thing that the majority find electable is Tory or Tory Lite (your words) .You may be right, but I do not think real Labour voters will be fooled by the same sort of "New Labour" rebrand that Blair got away with.
The gap between the haves and have nots has never been so wide so we need a better choice than Tory Capitalists v Tory Capitalists Lite.
Thank goodness Churchill opposed Chamberlain and government policy rather than let him lose the war.It's about time Labour stopped thinking that being in opposition just means they have to disagree with everything the Tories say, particularly at the current time. If they just show common sense, show they're trying to work with the Government to get through this and that they'll deal with highlighting the failings afterwards then they'll walk the next election. Otherwise Sunak will step into Boris's shoes and win.
(Not that I want a Labour Government any more than I want a Tory or Lib Dem/Green/SNP/whatever one, they're all currently, and recently, as bad as each other)
Nice theory but the only thing that the majority find electable is Tory or Tory Lite (your words) .
A true socialist program is constantly rejected.
An uncomfortable fact.
The first thing to do is win power or any manifesto is irrelevant.
Otherwise Sunak will step into Boris's shoes and win.
I'm not sure what true socialism is. I vote Labour because I view the alternative as unacceptable. I think we can do better than offer thin gruel next time and I think the voters may be receptive too.