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Confessions of prejudice

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James06 - 8/7/2013 10:12

RosettaStoned - 8/7/2013 09:53

Pregnant women.

No im not opening a door for you or picking up your fucking shopping. You chose to disable yourself in that way so suck it up and stop being such a pussy.




This also leads to:

People with children.

Oh I need to leave early today cause I have to pick my kids up from school.
Oh really? Well I drank too much at lunch and I need to go home early too, guess who gets to go and who doesn't.

You chose to have kids, I chose to drink too much - Neither of us should automatically get extra rights and privileges because of it.



Ive got loads more, but im busy at work, covering for all the women on fucking maternity leave.
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I think it's the law now that companies have to look into and offer if at all viable (and it always is) flexible working for parents.
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And as far as im concerned, its illegal and discriminatory.

People are not a better class of human because they have children, and dont deserve any special treatment.
Its not a disability, or a disease - its a lifestyle choice and an unforced one at that.

you choose to have children and it affects your private life? tough, thats not my problem. you(not YOU jim, but you) wouldnt give me the same grace if one of my cats had to go to the vets, or if my 47 cats meant i needed to take time off to look after them all.

I want flexible working hours because I CHOSE to have children is the same as, I want flexible hours because I chose to be a lazy cu*t that doesnt like mornings.

 
Trekker - 8/7/2013 10:19

The Fear - 8/7/2013 09:57

If I was employing I'd certainly not hire anyone with a goatee as I would think they were still in the 1970's...

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But yes, of course, for certain jobs, facial piercings / tattoos etc because no matter how much we would like to think people are more intelligent than they are, unfortunately people are only just about bright enough to judge a book by its cover.
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It's true J , the first MD I worked for in this industry didn't allow facial hair at all in his sales force.
I've actually only sported this for a relatively short time, and it started due to a rash.
And yes it may well annoy you about tattoos and facial piercing (again, visible eg on face and neck) but its not about intelligence , he is a very intelligent person, but his target audience wouldn't accept it. So if anything he was far more intelligent to meet his market needs.
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I was teasing.

I meant the mid 1970's!

No, it is a sad fact that people judge books by their covers, it isn't an intelligent thing to do but I guess we all, to one extent or another, do it.

The earrings that cause the big holes in the ears when done by the youngsters annoy me because they don't realise that at some stage they are going to have to go for a job and good degree or not, they will be judged on a fashion thing.

It isn't right. It is far from right, but you have to deal with the world you live and sadly some are limiting their employability.

I know villabrownie tries to talk to her students about it. Visible tattoos are only for those who really are strong of mind / don't give a damn about being judged / know they aren't the sort to be employees anyway.

There is a large space that can be tattooed that is still coverable by work shirt to be fair. I can all but cover mine apart from the one at the top of my next which touches my operation scar and is one of three saying faith, hope, healing. For me for it to 'work' it had to touch the operation scar but to be fair, I'd not ever be looking to work for someone else, unless it was under my terms (ie if we were ever bought out!)

Saw one picture in a tattoo shop at the hotel in Turkey I went to 2 years ago where a lad had had 'fuck off' tattooed on his neck.

I can't begin to understand what he was thinking plus it left me with no respect at all for the tattooist for a) doing it b) putting up a picture.

A good tattooist would advise against such things and they check properly that you are happy to have tattoos outside of where you can hide them.

Ramble over!

 
People who don't trim nasal and ear hair. I could extend that to people with wild eyebrows.
 
- Does anyone think that giving women equal rights (on an employment level) was a bad thing?

- Even if the above answer is yes or no; - do you think it could also be a contributing factor to a decline in society?

- Do you agree that young children/babies should be thrown into care whilst the women work?(and does or do you think this could have any long term psycho effects on children?

- Do you think, like we observe naturally - that a women's role is to bring up the children, whilst the male is the provider? - If we observe the Sentinelese people, this is naturally(without any outside intervention) how humanity seems to behave.

Im not saying these are my thoughts but just putting it out there for a discussion. Has humanity benefited or declined as a whole since women were granted equal rights in the workplace?

 
James06 - 8/7/2013 10:35

The Fear - 8/7/2013 10:32

People who wear vests in public (apart from around a pool on holiday or in the gym when hot maybe)
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and of course randy's uncle who has special dispensation.

The amount of blokes walking around Twycross Zoo yesterday without any tops on at all was disgraceful. it's not even accepted to do that when off the beach in Spain, Greece, Italy etc... so why the freaking hell do people think it's okay to do it here?
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Yup, doesn't look nice does it? Some numpties were in Kingfisher centre (air conditioned!) without tops on the other day.

They are dead now.

As said before, harsh but fair!

I named Uncle Vest ... but I'm not sure I am prepared to give him special dispensation to be honest. I shall have to ponder a while.

I also need to ponder my position on Judge Dread as posed by sirdennis.
 
My only problem with equal rights was when the lady tennis players started arguing they should get the same money. Why? They play 3 sets. Get them playing 5 sets I say. They should be (they are) more than fit enough so why treat them as the weaker sex?

Apart from that, no, if you want to really look at it, equal rights 'doubled' the amount of people available for limited jobs. However, yes, it was right they got equal rights! lol
 
The 'equal rights' situation we have now, that has evolved since women went to work during the war, has without any doubt whatsoever had a detrimental effect IMO.

The old system by were men go to work, women look after the home and the children, worked well I think. It kept everything neat and tidy, it meant kids were looked after, incomes and prices were appropriate, communities were stronger, and society was a safer and better place overall.

I'm not saying that all people dont deserve the right to be and earn whatever they chose to and are capable of. I dont think this was ever officially the case anyway - it was just born out of tradition, which in turn is probably a sign that it's natures way?

I think a lot of women today would say the same thing too.
 
Green Tea - 8/7/2013 10:42

- Does anyone think that giving women equal rights (on an employment level) was a bad thing?

- Even if the above answer is yes or no; - do you think it could also be a contributing factor to a decline in society?

- Do you agree that young children/babies should be thrown into care whilst the women work?(and does or do you think this could have any long term psycho effects on children?

- Do you think, like we observe naturally - that a women's role is to bring up the children, whilst the male is the provider? - If we observe the Sentinelese people, this is naturally(without any outside intervention) how humanity seems to behave.

Im not saying these are my thoughts but just putting it out there for a discussion. Has humanity benefited or declined as a whole since women were granted equal rights in the workplace?
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Hunter -Gatherer Societies usually employ a Creche type system for Child care, which is not dissimilar to the modern working woman. It is good for Children to socialise, so in answer to your question, humanity has benefited from equality in the workplace for Women, as it is a return to our natural state.
 
Talking about piercings, there was this young guy I interviewed a few years ago for a job. He came in with a piercing in his eye brow, smoker, on drugs socially and his father was currently in prison. He lived with his mother and was a bit of layabout, along with taking drugs he would hang around with a group that were noisy, drinking cans on the street etc. He was 18 yrs old at the time.

I also interviewed two others for the role, they were well dressed, polite young guys with good school results etc.

I remember asking in the interview, why do want this job? he(the guy with the piercings) answered "my mum told me to try"..After a long conversation and realising that this kid was just another waster in society I decided to employ him(im kinda strange like that). I remember thinking that the others I interviewed would have no problem getting on the ladder in life - but this guy could do with a break. His high school had branded him and give up/failed him and that his role since then was just to doss on the streets.

Anyway I called him back, as I wanted to tell him he had got the job face to face. He came in and I thanked him for returning, shook his hand and said I would like to offer you the job. His face lit up and he seemed shocked. I did say that he would have lose the piercing whilst working as some customers would be old fashioned etc.

He ended up being my most loyal and best worker.
 
if I had a tenner for evey woman I know who says/said they are 'gutted' to be going back to work after maternity leave then i wouldn't have to work myself!

The problem is they have to go back as they need the income to survive in the society we live in.
 
Nice story Mr Tea of the Green variety.

Book and cover again really isn't it and whether people are willing to at least TRY someone 'different'.

Timpsons the key cutters/shoe repairers (can't think of the word I want!) employ some prisoners when released. Much easier not to try things like that but very rewarding when it works out I'm sure.
 
Heath, it may be a creche style scheme in hunter gatherer societies but all the mothers would generally also be present making handicrafts etc. So the child in effect would never be too far away from it's mother. Or his/her mother would always be within the range of his/her sight.
Sentinelese people it is men that hunt, men that carry bow and arrows..The children have been observed running up to and standing behind their mothers "out of sight". Whilst the men team together to fight/see off the danger - this natural behaviour where no modern society has had any influence or connection.
 
The Fear - 8/7/2013 10:40

People who don't trim nasal and ear hair. I could extend that to people with wild eyebrows.
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I am very hirsute and I am fanatical about trimming eyebrows , ears nose etc. I've sat in meetings and really had to hold back from saying for gods sake trim that nose! How hard can it be
 
Green Tea - 8/7/2013 11:17

Talking about piercings, there was this young guy I interviewed a few years ago for a job. He came in with a piercing in his eye brow, smoker, on drugs socially and his father was currently in prison. He lived with his mother and was a bit of layabout, along with taking drugs he would hang around with a group that were noisy, drinking cans on the street etc. He was 18 yrs old at the time.

I also interviewed two others for the role, they were well dressed, polite young guys with good school results etc.

I remember asking in the interview, why do want this job? he(the guy with the piercings) answered "my mum told me to try"..After a long conversation and realising that this kid was just another waster in society I decided to employ him(im kinda strange like that). I remember thinking that the others I interviewed would have no problem getting on the ladder in life - but this guy could do with a break. His high school had branded him and give up/failed him and that his role since then was just to doss on the streets.

Anyway I called him back, as I wanted to tell him he had got the job face to face. He came in and I thanked him for returning, shook his hand and said I would like to offer you the job. His face lit up and he seemed shocked. I did say that he would have lose the piercing whilst working as some customers would be old fashioned etc.

He ended up being my most loyal and best worker.
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I generally think it's a bit risky though GT, going for the pierced tattooed look, telling the interviewer you enjoy haninging around the streets taking drugs, and hoping you'll get the job on the sympathy vote.

I reckon 9,999 times out of 10,000 you're gonna come a cropper with that approach, and rightly so.

After your story I actually just feel sorry for the other pair.
 
Children are also left to do pretty much what they want. Many adults have burn scars from childhood injuries, because children are left to find out themselves that fire burns.

Women have work to do, they cannot be burdened by watching their children closely all day. From about 18 months onwards children initiate a separation from their Mothers in almost every Hunter-gatherer society examined.

Your example of children running to their Mother in times of danger is perfectly natural, but this does not reflect the day to day life.
 
The Sentinelese people have yet to discover fire, no observations has yet seen any evidence that they use fire. It is believed that they eat raw fish, berries and coconuts. They have grasped boat building as the men have been observed fishing with wooded harpoons in small canoe like boats.
 
Trekker - 8/7/2013 11:24

The Fear - 8/7/2013 10:40

People who don't trim nasal and ear hair. I could extend that to people with wild eyebrows.
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I am very hirsute and I am fanatical about trimming eyebrows , ears nose etc. I've sat in meetings and really had to hold back from saying for gods sake trim that nose! How hard can it be
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It baffles me when people don't do what I would consider very basic grooming.
 
Green Tea - 8/7/2013 11:40

The Sentinelese people have yet to discover fire, no observations has yet seen any evidence that they use fire. It is believed that they eat raw fish, berries and coconuts. They have grasped boat building as the men have been observed fishing with wooded harpoons in small canoe like boats.
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Studies of the Sentinelese are very limited, as they have repelled any attempt to get near them. All observations so far have been from afar. They shot dead 2 fishermen a few years back, and their women have been seen having sex on the Beaches with multiple Warriors. Are you advocating this as something we should adopt?

I was referring to information that is available, from other Hunter-gatherer Societies.
 
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