randy.stand
Vital Champions League
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Trekker
Has a high horse
If someone came to me for a role in sales in my industry and they had facial tattoos and or piercingly I wouldn't consider them for the job as I know they wouldn't be accepted in our business.
Therefore I make a judgement.
If the tattoos weren't visible in normal business suits then that's entirely different.
I would also ask a male not to wear an earring if they were in a sales role as again it wouldn't be accepted.
He could wear one outside of his work if he wished of course.
Moan a you like it's real life.
Therefore I make a judgement.
If the tattoos weren't visible in normal business suits then that's entirely different.
I would also ask a male not to wear an earring if they were in a sales role as again it wouldn't be accepted.
He could wear one outside of his work if he wished of course.
Moan a you like it's real life.
James06
Vital Football Legend
I find myself agreeing with Trekker (as usual).
The only way I would have someone with tattoo's or piercings representing my business, is if I didnt know they had them (ie: they weren't visible when wearing general workwear)
As a customer i would definately judge some as unproffesional if they turned up to meet me and:
had visible tattoos
had visible piercings
sported a stupid hairdoo
wore innappropriate clothing
spoke poor english (if it was their first language)
*bearing in mind I work in global scale manufacturing and production - I do not work in music, the arts, nightclubs etc.... In which case I would undoubtedly have a different outlook.
The only way I would have someone with tattoo's or piercings representing my business, is if I didnt know they had them (ie: they weren't visible when wearing general workwear)
As a customer i would definately judge some as unproffesional if they turned up to meet me and:
had visible tattoos
had visible piercings
sported a stupid hairdoo
wore innappropriate clothing
spoke poor english (if it was their first language)
*bearing in mind I work in global scale manufacturing and production - I do not work in music, the arts, nightclubs etc.... In which case I would undoubtedly have a different outlook.
RosettaStoned
Vital Football Legend
Pregnant women.
No im not opening a door for you or picking up your fucking shopping. You chose to disable yourself in that way so suck it up and stop being such a pussy.
This also leads to:
People with children.
Oh I need to leave early today cause I have to pick my kids up from school.
Oh really? Well I drank too much at lunch and I need to go home early too, guess who gets to go and who doesn't.
You chose to have kids, I chose to drink too much - Neither of us should automatically get extra rights and privileges because of it.
Ive got loads more, but im busy at work, covering for all the women on fucking maternity leave.
No im not opening a door for you or picking up your fucking shopping. You chose to disable yourself in that way so suck it up and stop being such a pussy.
This also leads to:
People with children.
Oh I need to leave early today cause I have to pick my kids up from school.
Oh really? Well I drank too much at lunch and I need to go home early too, guess who gets to go and who doesn't.
You chose to have kids, I chose to drink too much - Neither of us should automatically get extra rights and privileges because of it.
Ive got loads more, but im busy at work, covering for all the women on fucking maternity leave.
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
If I was employing I'd certainly not hire anyone with a goatee as I would think they were still in the 1970's...
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But yes, of course, for certain jobs, facial piercings / tattoos etc because no matter how much we would like to think people are more intelligent than they are, unfortunately people are only just about bright enough to judge a book by its cover.
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But yes, of course, for certain jobs, facial piercings / tattoos etc because no matter how much we would like to think people are more intelligent than they are, unfortunately people are only just about bright enough to judge a book by its cover.
James06
Vital Football Legend
I think it's the law now that companies have to look into and offer if at all viable (and it always is) flexible working for parents.
However, a woman at our place has this year had 47 full days off, and left at 3pm everyday last week, because her son has asthma and he's either been off sick or she's had to collect him from school.
He's 16 years old!!!
Trekker
Has a high horse
It's true J , the first MD I worked for in this industry didn't allow facial hair at all in his sales force.
I've actually only sported this for a relatively short time, and it started due to a rash.
And yes it may well annoy you about tattoos and facial piercing (again, visible eg on face and neck) but its not about intelligence , he is a very intelligent person, but his target audience wouldn't accept it. So if anything he was far more intelligent to meet his market needs.
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mike_field
Vital Football Legend
Cut off really, unless a dire emergency where the school suggest a trip to A&E should be 15. All of them by them should be more than capable of trusted to take care of themselves and I'm probably being generous in saying 15 and not younger.
As for me and the thread - dogma of any sort, and yes I appreciate that also makes me a hypocrite when I get on my soapbox and start banging on.
As for me and the thread - dogma of any sort, and yes I appreciate that also makes me a hypocrite when I get on my soapbox and start banging on.
James06
Vital Football Legend
I believe brian little had the same rule for his players. they had to be cleanly shaven on matchdays. I dunno if this was a rule he created himself or if he had the same rule when he was a player, forced by his manager. I can see the logic though, they are representing the club and he wants them looking smart - I'm sure most clubs have rules about attire and appearance on matchdays. Funnily enough the best dressed team I recall seeing are always man Utd who arrive in suits and ties (as opposed to tracksuits, headphones etc...) so maybe there is a logic in it?
As trekker says though, it's not necassarily the managers prejudice against tattoos beards etc... but more that he's thinking about what customers or colleagues might think. generally in business there is a etiquette to adhere to and that can be carried across the globe, throughout all cultures and expectations.
James06
Vital Football Legend
and of course randy's uncle who has special dispensation.
The amount of blokes walking around Twycross Zoo yesterday without any tops on at all was disgraceful. it's not even accepted to do that when off the beach in Spain, Greece, Italy etc... so why the freaking hell do people think it's okay to do it here?
