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Is it really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

Video's and photos galore show chem and con trails in the same frame, chemtrails stay in position and do not disperse like contrails, I am sure our resident aviator murph can tell the difference.

http://www.naturalnews.com/037239_chemtrails_barium_nanoparticles.html

Chemtrail aluminum nanoparticles concerns

Dr. Russell Blaylock, retired neurosurgeon, neurotoxin expert and author, who recently challenged noted pediatricians to take the same vaccinations they promote for children (http://www.naturalnews.com/035335_vaccines_Dr_Blaylock_children.html).

He admits that at first he was skeptical about chemtrail reports until he began noticing them himself. Many still deny their existence even when they see them. The deniers usually claim they are contrails, which are ice particles from jet vapors that evaporate quickly and disappear. Conversely, chemtrails linger across the sky and fan out.

Blaylock has become aware of their aluminum content. He explains that aluminum nanoparticles can enter the brain and spinal cord quickly through the lungs and nostrils, adding that nanopartilces are much more inflammatory to tissue than other forms of environmental aluminum.

He sees a connection of chemtrails' aluminum deposits to the rise of neurodegenerative diseases, especially among young people. He's talking about Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and Lou Gehrig's diseases, not autism spectrum disorders from vaccines, which Dr. Blaylock has covered extensively.

Dr. Blaylock also expressed concern over the saturation of plant, crop life, and water with aluminum nanoparticles. He thinks chemtrailing must be curbed before it's too late to minimize the threat of constant aluminum toxicity surrounding us. (Source 2 below)


What do you reckon Jonah, more "bullshit"?




 

Wurzel

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Interesting article on Dr Bay lock here

Russell Blaylock is a trained neurosurgeon who considers himself an expert on nutrition and toxins in food, cookware, teeth, and vaccines. Contrary to the vast bulk of the scientific evidence, Blaylock maintains that vaccines such as the H1N1 vaccine are dangerous or ineffective; that dental amalgams and fluoridated water are harmful to our health; and that aluminum cookware, aspartame, and MSG are toxic substances causing brain damage.1, 2, 3 Ironically, Blaylock perpetuates the myth that science-based medicine is not interested in prevention, despite the fact that immunization, which he opposes, prevents more disease and saves more lives than just about any other medical activity.

Blaylock has retired from neurosurgery and has taken up a career opposing science-based medicine and promoting pseudoscience-based medicine and supplements that he sells under the label Brain Repair Formula. He suggests that his supplements can treat and prevent such diseases as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. He asserts that his formula "will maximize your brain’s ability to heal and reduce inflammation." The rest of the scientific community seems oblivious to these claims, which are not based on large-scale clinical trials. Blaylock also sells hope to cancer patients by encouraging them to believe he has found the secret to prevention and cure.5

Despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, Blaylock maintains that vaccines cause Lou Gehrig's disease (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or ALS, a disease of the nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord that control voluntary muscle movement), Parkinson's, and autism.4 He puts forth these notions in books and for the politically conservative website Newsmax in a section called The Blaylock Wellness Report.* Despite the fact that the scientific evidence does not support his belief, Blaylock claims that giving children about two dozen vaccinations before they start school is dangerous. The experts at the Center for Disease Control disagree with Blaylock. According to the CDC:

The available scientific data show that simultaneous vaccination with multiple vaccines has no adverse effect on the normal childhood immune system....

No evidence suggests that the recommended childhood vaccines can "overload" the immune system. In contrast, from the moment babies are born, they are exposed to numerous bacteria and viruses on a daily basis. Eating food introduces new bacteria into the body; numerous bacteria live in the mouth and nose; and an infant places his or her hands or other objects in his or her mouth hundreds of times every hour, exposing the immune system to still more antigens. An upper respiratory viral infection exposes a child to 4 to 10 antigens, and a case of "strep throat" to 25 to 50.

Blaylock has claimed that the vaccine may be more dangerous than the swine flu because the vaccine contains squalene. On the one hand, no flu vaccine in the U.S. contains squalene, which is an adjuvant that allows the vaccine to be equally effective while using less of the antigen (thus, more vaccine can be made from less material). On the other hand, what if it did? There's no evidence squalene, a substance naturally produced in the body, is harmful. "Squalene is a natural and vital part of the synthesis of cholesterol, steroid hormones, and vitamin D in the human body."*

Dr. Harriet Hall writes:

Flu vaccines containing MF59, a squalene-based adjuvant, have been used in Europe for 10 years, with 22,000,000 doses given; and no serious adverse events have occurred, only mild local reactions. The vaccine does not raise the incidence or titers of anti-squalene antibodies. The World Health Organization (WHO) considers it safe.*

Blaylock claims that squalene "in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome," despite the fact that there was no squalene in vaccines given to Gulf War soldiers.

Blaylock also believes there is a conspiracy by Big Pharma, the World Health Organization, and the U.S. government to trick people into getting vaccinated:

It is obvious that the vaccine manufacturers stand to make billions of dollars in profits from this WHO/government-promoted pandemic.

Joseph Mercola makes a similar argument, but as Joseph Albietz notes: it's obvious that pharmaceutical firms, doctors, and hospitals would make many more billions if there were a pandemic than if they prevent one. (Mercola is a nonscience-based or nonsense-based medical advisor with a loud Internet presence.)

Besides his anti-vaccination rants, Dr. Blaylock has been active in promoting the unsupported notion that aspartame is a neurotoxin.

An extensive review of the research on aspartame was published in 2007 and concluded:

The data from the extensive investigations into the possibility of neurotoxic effects of aspartame, in general, do not support the hypothesis that aspartame in the human diet will affect nervous system function, learning or behavior. Epidemiological studies on aspartame include several case-control studies and one well-conducted prospective epidemiological study with a large cohort, in which the consumption of aspartame was measured. The studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame and cancer in any tissue. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive sweetener.

Blaylock's claim about the dangers from mercury in dental amalgam is not supported by the preponderance of the scientific evidence.

The mercury scare apparently began in 1985 with the publication of It's All in Your Head by Hal Huggins, a Colorado dentist who was convinced that just about everything that ails anybody is due to the mercury in amalgam fillings. "60 Minutes" gave the idea a big boost with a program segment in 1990 entitled "Poison in Your Mouth." The program was called Toxic Television by Dr. Stephen Barrett.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services says "there is scant evidence that the health of a vast majority of people with amalgam is compromised." The American Dental Association (ADA) claims that "there currently appears to be no justification for discontinuing the use of dental amalgam." Of course, the amalgam opponents think the ADA is part of a conspiracy to hide the real dangers of the alloy. The ADA position is not based on economics, but on science. According to my dentist, dentists in California are advised not to comply with a patient's request to have all his or her "mercury" fillings removed. Removing "mercury" fillings and using plastics to refill them would be a good way to make money, since there are many people who are convinced, as Blaylock is, that fillings are causing many health problems. Dentists are advised not to do the work because there is not sufficient scientific evidence to back up the fear that fillings are poisoning people. Furthermore, "patients might be exposing themselves to more mercury when a filling is removed. Some studies have shown a temporary spike of mercury levels in urine when amalgam fillings are removed. This increase lasts only a few days."*

The arguments of many opponents to mercury-based amalgams and preservatives in vaccines seem to commit the fallacy of composition: the notion that if part of a whole is toxic, then the whole must be toxic. Congresswoman Diane Waters, for example, sponsored H. R. 4163, the Mercury in Dental Filling Disclosure and Prohibition Act. She and some of her colleagues in Congress wanted to ban the amalgam used in many dental fillings because mercury, a known poison, is one of its components. (Amalgam is an alloy of silver, copper, tin, molybdenum, mercury, and perhaps a little zinc. Small traces of these elements may be floating freely in amalgam, but not enough to worry about.) Before the ban would take effect she wanted all amalgam to come with this warning label: "Dental amalgam contains approximately 50 percent mercury, a highly toxic element. Such products should not be administered to children less than 18 years of age, pregnant women or lactating women. Such products should not be administered to any consumer without a warning that the product contains mercury, which is a highly toxic element, and therefore poses health risks." Watson might as well have supported legislation that would ban both table salt (since it consists chlorine, a poisonous gas) and water (since it is consists of hydrogen, a highly flammable gas, and oxygen, known to be essential to combustion). Where is the science to back up Watson's concerns? Totally lacking, according to Leon Jaroff who took Watson to task in Time.

Blaylock's belief that thimerosal [a preservative using ethylmercury] in vaccines causes autism, Alzheimer's, and Parkinson's is also misguided and without support of the preponderance of the evidence.

Blaylock makes too many claims to refute them all in this short article, but one more should be noted. He claims that "vaccines, such as those for diphtheria and whooping cough [pertussis], show high failure rates." Other experts disagree:

The DTaP vaccine is 95% effective in preventing all three diseases that it immunizes against--diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. It is 59-89% effective in preventing pertussis, while the protection rates for diphtheria and tetanus are higher. Pertussis occasionally occurs in children who have received the pertussis immunization, but it is less severe and has fewer complications.

Furthermore, many youngsters are getting whooping cough (even dying from it) because parents are not immunizing their children. In Japan, when the vaccination rate for pertussis dropped 70% from 1974 to 1976, there was a corresponding increase in pertussis. In 1974 there were 393 cases of pertussis and no deaths. In 1976, there were more than 13,000 cases and 41 deaths.*[\quote]

Link: http://www.skepdic.com/blaylock.html
 

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
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Worrying stuff. Got brain damage, it isn't particularly nice! Unbelievable that some of the questionable substances (like aspartame) aren't just removed (and re-introduced IF ... and they won't be able to I'm sure... they can then prove its safety)

 

CDX_EIRE

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Russell Blaylock is a trained neurosurgeon who considers himself an expert on nutrition and toxins in food, cookware, teeth, and vaccines. Contrary to the vast bulk of the scientific evidence, Blaylock maintains that vaccines such as the H1N1 vaccine are dangerous or ineffective; that dental amalgams and fluoridated water are harmful to our health; and that aluminum cookware, aspartame, and MSG are toxic substances causing brain damage.1, 2, 3 Ironically, Blaylock perpetuates the myth that science-based medicine is not interested in prevention, despite the fact that immunization, which he opposes, prevents more disease and saves more lives than just about any other medical activity.
All this guys claims might not be true but he hits the nail on the head for plenty of things... Theres much the vast majority of people over 30 dont know or choose to ignore...

Big Pharma in the US is not interesting in curing or immunisation as he suggests because thats a massive loss of revenue... So instead of curing something they come up with pills you will have to take for the rest of your life and pay a hefty fee for if you plan on living a long life...
Then theres the things like fluoride which is toxic to us Continental Europe dont add fluoride to their water anymore its pretty much only English speaking nations now... The documentary The War on Health goes into depth about things like this... One of the weirdest things is the UN guidelines on vitamins &supplements etc. I believe the UN will let you have up to 10 times the 'healthy' dosage of a poison like fluoride but some vitamins like B6 and vitamin C are restricted...
Think about how stupid it is to ban a vitamin like B6 when it can still be obtained from food sources... The nanny state attitude the EU and US has is retarded... Im all about free will and I dont believe thr Government should be allowed to tell me what I can and cant eat/drink etc.
If they were really all about health cigarettes and alcohol would be banned but they dont because their not interested in things like that... Prohibition is incredibly stupid anyway it promotes the rise of gangs and criminal activity... You cannot stop people getting what they want the War on Drugs in america has been a complete and utter failure... All drugs should be legal IMO let people have what they want.. If you take away the 'this is illegal i.e. we shouldnt be doing this kick' people get I believe you would greatly reduce the amount of people on drugs...
Its unfortunate our society is more worried about stopping kids having sex than they are about preventing them from taking drugs... If we made it legal and actually taught them correctly about the effects of all drugs including prescription drugs like painkillers and alcohol we might actually start getting somewhere with society...

As for chemtrails its proven bullshit Neil Degrasse Tyson has explained what it is its simply vapour trails from the plane... However "chemtrailing" is done in the likes of the UAE to create rain I think they made it rain over 80 days over there... The US has also experimented with things like this in the past they released aluminium into the sky to disrupt radar and also purposely did something similar to reflect sunlight... It was speculated that could help prevent global warming...
Commerical airlines are not spraying anything into the sky its displacement of air/water vapour and depending on the temperature it disperses at varying rates...
 
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Wurzel - 6/2/2013 08:55

Interesting article on Dr Bay lock here

Russell Blaylock is a trained neurosurgeon who considers himself an expert on nutrition and toxins in food, cookware, teeth, and vaccines. Contrary to the vast bulk of the scientific evidence, Blaylock maintains that vaccines such as the H1N1 vaccine are dangerous or ineffective; that dental amalgams and fluoridated water are harmful to our health; and that aluminum cookware, aspartame, and MSG are toxic substances causing brain damage.1, 2, 3 Ironically, Blaylock perpetuates the myth that science-based medicine is not interested in prevention, despite the fact that immunization, which he opposes, prevents more disease and saves more lives than just about any other medical activity.


Link: http://www.skepdic.com/blaylock.html



Did you mean interesting character assassination piece?

And show the good Doc some respect and get his name right Wimple!


Now on to THE FACT that he has been proven right on the vaccines, right on the Aspartame, right on the Fluoride, in fact he has a good record!

Now taking into account that mainstream science is bought and paid for by the corporations that produce the dangerous poisonous shit we are been given and you have the reason why the mainstream want to discredit him.

But of course most will just be content with trying (and failing miserably) to discredit what they see as alternative views, when the reality is, these alternative views were known and well practised by your grand parents, great grandparents, great great grandparents and so on.


Talk about brainwashed!

Keep drinking the water west mids, you're coming along nicely!




How about a comment on the thread topic instead of trying to discredit one of HUNDREDS who are looking into this.


 

Wurzel

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LOL Steff you are funny. I think the article puts in context the good doctors credentials and research. Of course you are at liberty to believe any snake oil salesman you like, that is your right, just don't get upset when someone challenges the validity of them when you do.

 

neilh111

Vital Football Hero
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Bloody hell, what's the world coming to?

You couldn't make it up. Oh hang on, yes you could, someone just did.

What an absolute load of crap.


 
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Chemtrails are very real, watched a documentry on it actually quite a few, aluminium oxides etc are being released into the atmosphere to supposedly stop the planet warmingby reflecting the sun rays back from the earth but these chemicals are in the atmosphere

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Yes they are real Clive, I knew that when I posted this thread, just wanted to hear from the "informed" people of Vital Villa.

I'll give you the link to the PDF from the UK parliament where they discuss the ONGOING "geo engineering"

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/221/221.pdf

Read it and feel free to weep, many here said it was bull, so they didn't know, why didn't they know? Why hasn't this been all over the news? The media?


 
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CDX_EIRE - 6/2/2013 12:22

As for chemtrails its proven bullshit Neil Degrasse Tyson has explained what it is its simply vapour trails from the plane... However "chemtrailing" is done in the likes of the UAE to create rain I think they made it rain over 80 days over there... The US has also experimented with things like this in the past they released aluminium into the sky to disrupt radar and also purposely did something similar to reflect sunlight... It was speculated that could help prevent global warming...
Commerical airlines are not spraying anything into the sky its displacement of air/water vapour and depending on the temperature it disperses at varying rates...


WOW! If Neil Degrasse Tyson has stated it it must be true!

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/221/221.pdf

So does that make him a proven bullshitter?

Well that puts that to bed doesn't it, they ARE spraying in this country and it is NOT the first time.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

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Wurzel - 6/2/2013 16:47

LOL Steff you are funny. I think the article puts in context the good doctors credentials and research. Of course you are at liberty to believe any snake oil salesman you like, that is your right, just don't get upset when someone challenges the validity of them when you do.


I believe my research, you didn't do any/enough, you take the piss from a standpoint of ignorance, that doesn't upset me, I'm used to dealing with the uninformed.

I teach, you are under no obligation to learn.

But it might help if you removed your head from your arse occasionally and actually had a look around.


 
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neilh111 - 18/2/2013 21:52

Bloody hell, what's the world coming to?

You couldn't make it up. Oh hang on, yes you could, someone just did.

What an absolute load of crap.


Proven

And another one waxing lyrical about something he knows nothing about, it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove All doubt.


 
#14
You teach? You posture around the internet looking for conspiracy theories then post them on here as fact. You have no evidence for you crank ideas, yet dismiss legitimate research done by real scientists. It is as if you have only just found YouTube and believe everything on it. A simple Google search always reveals the truth of your nonsense.

You are entitled to believe any shit you want but if you post it expect it to be challenged. As for the tone of your replies you sound like a petulant child, grow up.
 

Bikini Inspector

Vital Football Hero
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The thing that amazes me is how trusting people are. As soon as you talk about this stuff you get looked at like a mental conspiracy theorist. Which is what I am, but people shouldn't look at me like one.

Chemtrails are bilderderg sperm cells designed to give us all lung tumors.
 

DeanoVilla

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All I want to know is how come with all these Chemtrails, vaccines which are dangerous or ineffective, dental amalgams and fluoridated water that are harmful to our health and aluminum cookware, aspartame, and MSG that are toxic.... how come with all this, we are all living longer than we did in the past?

Some people may crave a world full of 120 year olds. Personally I couldn't bare the smell of piss.
 

RosettaStoned

Vital Football Legend
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Lots of youtube videos with plenty of scary text on it.

Very little actual suggestions on what to do, and how exactly it would work.

Catchy slogans and poorly represented marches against those in power is meaningless.
Once anyone can come up with a viable solution on how to stop atrocities, illegal invasions, tax dominations, oppression, then im all ears, but to this day the best we can do is hold a protest and that speaks volumes.

We are here to be owned by those in power, its the way its always been and the way it will continue, the only reason we are aware is because of the internet, but that doesnt mean anything can change, to be honest, it was better before we all knew.

The best option is to enjoy the 80 or so years we are lucky enough to have on this planet - or of course you can get all angry on the internet about it, but im willing to bet in 70 years time we will all be in the same position.

 

DeanoVilla

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RosettaStoned - 20/3/2013 12:09

Lots of youtube videos with plenty of scary text on it.

Very little actual suggestions on what to do, and how exactly it would work.

Catchy slogans and poorly represented marches against those in power is meaningless.
Once anyone can come up with a viable solution on how to stop atrocities, illegal invasions, tax dominations, oppression, then im all ears, but to this day the best we can do is hold a protest and that speaks volumes.

We are here to be owned by those in power, its the way its always been and the way it will continue, the only reason we are aware is because of the internet, but that doesnt mean anything can change, to be honest, it was better before we all knew.

The best option is to enjoy the 80 or so years we are lucky enough to have on this planet - or of course you can get all angry on the internet about it, but im willing to bet in 70 years time we will all be in the same position.
:1: Exactly. The phrase Ignorance Is Bliss was never so apt.

I bet there are a million things the governments do that I don't know about, will never know about, will never be able to change and frankly don't really care about.

I'd rather just try and enjoy life.
 

villawill

Vital 1st Team Regular
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DeanoVilla - 20/3/2013 09:31

All I want to know is how come with all these Chemtrails, vaccines which are dangerous or ineffective, dental amalgams and fluoridated water that are harmful to our health and aluminum cookware, aspartame, and MSG that are toxic.... how come with all this, we are all living longer than we did in the past?
Because they're turning us into pickles
 

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#20
I guess a great deal of us will be dead before the full impact of the modern life/new chemicals etc kicks in.

Not a great legacy we are going to leave though eh?!