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That's because it is very poorly advertised in the UK

I'm sure you agree with Cummings that to have a true fascist state, we should remove fantastic opportunities like this and replace them with schemes that concentrate on a right wing education

Erasmus involvement needs to be looked at objectively; its champions must provide a robust, evidence-based case for continued participation against other possible uses of the funds. A similar scheme among English speaking countries may be of much greater benefit to UK students, especially those from disadvantaged backgrounds who are much less likely to possess the requisite foreign language skills.
 
You are right Lienking.

I just don't believe in the UK enough. Maybe because people like you have run it into the ground for the last 30 years

These wonderful, magical posters... Not one of them agrees with you do they?

Yet again you think the UK has been run into the ground. Pre-covid employment was at record levels. Since voting for Brexit wages had finally started going up faster than inflation again. If the UK has been "run into the ground" over the last 30 years (which it hasn't) that doesn't say much for the success of its EU membership does it ?

The EU has run Italy, Greece, Spain etc into the ground. Fortunately we had more sense than join the Euro.
 
I'm struggling to understand this one for a few reasons:

Firstly, the UK has been the beneficiary of 'draining brains' from the poorer countries for decades.

Secondly, you want to live in a continent of free movement and 'internationalism' but complain when the 'brains' leave Britain. Why?

Finally, I thought that the British wouldn't be able to move outside the UK anymore.

Its fairly obvious why people should complain about a brain drain; lose a person with certain skill sets and you need a person with similar skills to replace him or her.

Lose sufficient of those people and it becomes difficult to function.

I have witnessed businesses relocate whole departments due to this happening in the past.

The people who get left behind end up on lower wages or out of work more often than not.

I know of one Business who has very close links with a local University and benefited with a constant supply of foreign students taking up highly skilled jobs.

They have gone from being able to pick and choose the best ones from a flood of applications to not being able to fill positions.

This will have no immediate impact on day to day activity but will create huge problems if the situation is not reversed within the next two years.

Attempts to address this with Government has fallen on deaf ears; Sharma is nowhere near as sympathetic as Greg Clarke was.

Not everyone is looking forward to a low skills, low wage future and have decided to do something about it:

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ating-to-eu-has-risen-by-30-since-brexit-vote
 
Yet again you think the UK has been run into the ground. Pre-covid employment was at record levels. Since voting for Brexit wages had finally started going up faster than inflation again. If the UK has been "run into the ground" over the last 30 years (which it hasn't) that doesn't say much for the success of its EU membership does it ?

The EU has run Italy, Greece, Spain etc into the ground. Fortunately we had more sense than join the Euro.
What on earth makes you believe that Brexit, which doesn't happen economically until January until January, had any positive impact on wages?

It is ten years since a global crash that depressed wages. That is why wages have been creeping up.

Our economy is not great, at all. You have never and never will have to experience gig work or zero hours work in the modern sense, so don't be so blase about what that kind of work is like or what it means. It isn't a sign of a good economy, it's positively Victorian.

And the governments of Italy, Spain, Greece etc have run Italy, Spain, Greece into the ground. The EU doesn't "run" any aspects of sovereign states. It does not run their economies, does not make their laws nor choose their leaders. The southern states run themselves badly and the EU has bailed them out; for a price. If the EU did not exist those countries would still have been bailed out by other countries; but more likely for a greater price
 
Erasmus involvement needs to be looked at objectively; its champions must provide a robust, evidence-based case for continued participation against other possible uses of the funds. A similar scheme among English speaking countries may be of much greater benefit to UK students, especially those from disadvantaged backgrounds who are much less likely to possess the requisite foreign language skills.
Those from disadvantaged backgrounds are phenomenally unlikely to ever consider such a scheme and this government has done nothing but exacerbate that. Let me caviat that; if they are white British. BAME students from disadvantaged backgrounds are, in my experience, a million times more likely to seek and secure such opportunities

In fact, working class ignorance and aversion to education is the absolute lifeblood of this government.
 
But don't worry, help won't be forthcoming from us from the EU if we need it. Your lot have seen to that; Europeans would rather help Vietnam than the UK now. Well done on turning us into the Millwall of Europe

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I see medical suppliers are being told by the government to build 6 week stockpiles and seek alternative shipping routes for medicines in the event of no deal brexit, even though that isn't always possible at the best of times and the covid situation makes things worse.
They're building a safety net so they can blame disruption of vital supplies on the companies rather than their failure to negotiate a deal.

Craziest of all is IDS's rabid criticism of the WA which he drew up and voted for after hoodwinking the British electorate that they had an oven ready deal. Charlatans.
 
But don't worry, help won't be forthcoming from us from the EU if we need it. Your lot have seen to that; Europeans would rather help Vietnam than the UK now. Well done on turning us into the Millwall of Europe

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And you are surprised? 40 years of negativity towards U.K. from EU. De Gaulle, Delors, Junker. The negativity role, has according to press, been picked up by Netherlands. Watch their score go down. Who designed the yougov questionnaire? Wouldn’t get past an A level psychology group. We were the Millwall of Europe before Brexit was thought of. Where have you been?
 
What on earth makes you believe that Brexit, which doesn't happen economically until January until January, had any positive impact on wages?

It is ten years since a global crash that depressed wages. That is why wages have been creeping up.

Our economy is not great, at all. You have never and never will have to experience gig work or zero hours work in the modern sense, so don't be so blase about what that kind of work is like or what it means. It isn't a sign of a good economy, it's positively Victorian.

And the governments of Italy, Spain, Greece etc have run Italy, Spain, Greece into the ground. The EU doesn't "run" any aspects of sovereign states. It does not run their economies, does not make their laws nor choose their leaders. The southern states run themselves badly and the EU has bailed them out; for a price. If the EU did not exist those countries would still have been bailed out by other countries; but more likely for a greater price

Of course it was the EU that came up with the Euro. They make laws too. Even debatable if they have chosen leaders on the back of bailouts in countries like Italy.
 
What should they be grateful for? Our unique brand of xenophobia?

Xenophobia. That's a great term that's sneaked into the everyday lexicon of people that like to casually insult people, who have the temerity to disagree with them about a the merits of remaining in a trading bloc.

And from the YouGov graph you posted, it would appear that the xenophobia is not the one-way street you fantasise about it being.
 
I see medical suppliers are being told by the government to build 6 week stockpiles and seek alternative shipping routes for medicines in the event of no deal brexit, even though that isn't always possible at the best of times and the covid situation makes things worse.
They're building a safety net so they can blame disruption of vital supplies on the companies rather than their failure to negotiate a deal.

Craziest of all is IDS's rabid criticism of the WA which he drew up and voted for after hoodwinking the British electorate that they had an oven ready deal. Charlatans.

Seems sensible planning.
Bernier has issued similar advice for the EU.
 
That looks great.
Is it because of Brexit? Imagine how many good schemes like this we could have if we didn't screw our economy further by going ahead with brexit.

Because of/in spite of? We'll never know; but it's great that people are cracking on with making money and creating wealth/jobs, even though there is still a noisy minority who are still tripping over their bottom lip and hoping we fail as a country.
 
No, there's nothing racist at all about Brexit.

https://www.channel4.com/news/racism-in-key-brexit-party-campaign

Undercover filming inside Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party reveals racism and bigotry from two officials fighting for key Hartlepool seat
– A Brexit Party councillor boasted he tried to bury a pig’s head under a mosque, and said Muslims were “outbreeding us” and bring down house prices because they “live like animals”
– He used offensive slurs against black people, Pakistanis and Turks, and Eastern Europeans
– He also bragged of serving repeated bans from football matches, and violently attacking opposition supporters
– A Brexit Party regional assistant manager also used racist language saying Muslims are “outbreeding us” and countries that ban them need fewer police, prison and health services
– Brexit Party’s prospective parliamentary candidate for Blackburn, Rick Moore, listened to the boasts about burying a pig’s head under a mosque, but says he doesn’t recall the conversation

Its not that all people who voted for brexit are racist, its that all people who are racist voted for Brexit.
That's not an insult, its just what the evidence suggests. I'm sorry that non racist Brexit supporters are so offended by this, but maybe instead of flying off the handle every time someone mentions racism, they should admit that Brexit attracts racists because it aligns with their racist ideology of blaming anyone they can paint as 'the other' for all of our problems.
 
Because of/in spite of? We'll never know; but it's great that people are cracking on with making money and creating wealth/jobs, even though there is still a noisy minority who are still tripping over their bottom lip and hoping we fail as a country.
There isn't anybody like that.
 
Its not that all people who voted for brexit are racist, its that all people who are racist voted for Brexit.
That's not an insult, its just what the evidence suggests.

It is a suggestion as you stated, just after you wrote it to be a fact.
 
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