Austerity cuts

Juan Mourep

Juan Mourep

Vital 1st Team Regular
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/06/21/austerity-12-billion-welfare_n_7630336.html?ncid=webmail1

The day after a quarter of a million people marched in London against austerity, the government has confirmed it will cut £12 billion in welfare.

Despite opponents' hopes the cuts would be watered down, Chancellor George Osborne and Work And Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith confirmed the budget and the autumn spending review would include measures to bring the welfare budget down.

They said welfare spending had been allowed to "spiral so far out of control" and they said their announcement was the beginning of a decade-long project to "return the system to sanity".

 
Which would be 'fine' if they were also cutting the fraud and cheating and dodging at the top of society.

We are, after all, all in this together. :3:
 
In it all together my ar*e, and i won't hold my breath the min wage will be anything that we need it to be either, attack the poor Tories thats where allll the money is ay it?
 
If there are cuts they always hit the wrong people.

I had some good news today I have been offered a job.
 
I have been a socialist all my life, At the last election the people of this country (30%) voted for this government. People must have known that the torys would bring in these cuts. We dont have a socialist party in this country anymore. The war criminal Blair killed the Labour party, he was a tory in a red coat. We dont have anyone now who can lead a party against the torys, MPs now are what I call, career politicians. They come out of university get a job as a researcher for a MP, next they become a agent for a MP. Then they get nominated to stand as a MP, if they get elected, they have never worked, like the people the are supposed to represent. Austerity cuts dont effect MPs, the bankers will still get their bonus, and all of Camerons mates will still have their PIMS.
Austerity cuts, your having a laugh, what it should be called is fecking legalised robbery.
 
However they are going for those also on taxi credits primarily from what I read tonight! Promised to leave pensioners alone! Um why? I don't mean the average pensioner. I mean those on top notch money pensioner. Why do they need £300 allowance/free TV licence over 75 etc?
 
When you get into government knowing the country is deep in the shit due to the borrow, borrow, borrow - spend, spend, spend it'll be alright ideals of the previous 'government', but find it's worse than you think, belts have to be tightened to replay what has been borrowed. Because of circumstances/world bank etc it is taking longer because of deeper etc.

It's harsh, but we all have to do our bit. Ok, the ones at the top of society should do more, but I suppose they didn't dip into the pot as much because perhaps they were already at the top of society.

 
The reason Britain is broke is the bank bailouts. Socialism for the rich and capital for everyone else.
 
The basic principal of what Cameron is saying is absolutely correct. Taxing low earners, and then giving money back to them through benefits is an appalling system. Two sets of administration, both run inefficiently.

It would be far better to raise the personal allowance, and stop the tax credits. You could work it so the net effect is the same, and save a fortune on costs.

Whether that is what transpires, however, remains to be seen. Anyone that voted Tory in the election, did you think it would be any different?
 
Left wingers see the 12 billion saved from welfare, as 'fuck the poor'

Its not.

It will hit those that have had an easy life under the last labour government and force them to stop treating the welfare state as a way of life, and use it as it is intended - a safety net.

I understand the bank bailouts, and can see the reasons behind it and agree with the sentiment of most of the arguments that if we claw back the money the bankers 'steal' in bonuses, it would have a huge effect on the economy.

For me however, the money from the welfare cuts isnt about balancing the books, its about getting this country back to how it was when we ruled the world - people working and developing the best for the people in this country.
People with kids and no jobs, people with 5 kids who need 'help from the state' etc

It costs ~£150k to raise a child to 18 and if you have 3 of them and cant afford to pay to feed them, then fuck you, we take your balls.

If I bought 3 ferraris at £150k each and was then given money from the government for pay for the fuel, Id get lynched.

It about time benefits to those able to work but are simply 'unemployable' are handed out in food or clothing vouchers.

 
kefkat - 22/6/2015 22:31
Promised to leave pensioners alone!
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Hooray!
As it happens, well-off pensioners (and, indeed, not so well-of pensioners - I know, I am that soldier) do get to pay income tax.
 
kefkat - 22/6/2015 22:31

Promised to leave pensioners alone! Um why?
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They are the ones that vote the most!

Pensions SHOULD be looked and it should be cross party. Not one single party dares tamper too much for the fear of lost votes and with votes so low these days, you can understand their fear
 
I thought it was a great election fraud that the Tories wouldn't say which areas they would cut before the vote.

They will look after there own , of that there is no doubt , they always have.
 
I don't like the Tories generally, I will never vote for them.

However I don't like people taking the fucking piss, £26,000 benefit cap, £26,000 for doing fuck all. Don't get me wrong I would never ever seen a disable or old person charged for anything but after the last Labour Gvmnt things were way too easy.

More than 33,000 households have had their benefits slashed since handouts were capped at £500 a week.

Hundreds of families caught by the cap were pocketing handouts equal to a salary of more than £60,000, the Department for Work and Pensions revealed yesterday.

Some 59 households were claiming at least £900 a week, equivalent to a salary of almost £70,000 before tax.


£900 a week for fuck sake its no wonder were billions in debt.

We as grown up all know you cant just keep spending and spending, we have been at war for a decade spending billions invading foreign countries etc etc .... were fucking bankrupt........

Its just can't go on......

Going to be a bitter pill, my pensionable age has gone up, my family will be expected to work into their 70's to pay off the debts of their fathers.

I don't like it anymore than anyone else but sadly its got to be done.

 
What really gets my goat is the way the banks have got away with it world wide recession companies closed left right and centre, unemployment, followed by a decade of austerity cuts. And how many of these morons have gone to prison errr name one. From what I have seen this all started with the yank companies Fanny mae
and Freddie mac if that is how there spelt., giving hundreds of thousands of americans mortgages they knew they could not repay. So how come Obama can take B.P. to the cleaners for there fuck up in the gulf and yet allow an american bank to fold and two other organizations to trade so in this manner and our politicians take no action against them ? I admit Obama being a typical yank president thought B.P. was a British company when in fact they employ twice as many in the U.S.A but it beggars belief that the yanks can get away with the sort of shite that causes world wide recession without some country at least having the balls to tell them. This may be an oversimplified view of the recession and yes each bank takes its share of the blame for trading in these high risk options but still feel the yanks have got away with it big time. And no I am not anti american but do feel this should have been laid at their door.
 
Whats the betting when the Government sell millions and millions of Lloyds shares at a discount price (with a gauranteed 12 month return) that the banking/big money fraternity will be in the queue with the millions and millions of pounds they have left.
 
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