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Some proper dick heads on social media abusing him personally.
Au Revoir Kyle
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Big Chiv
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I get that Poch thinks Walker is dispensable, but Levy does the selling and has sold to a rival.
Or maybe Levy thinks that with Wembley being our 'home' next season, our rivals are more likely to be West Brom or Swansea, I wouldn't argue with that given Poch's complete inability to tactically overcome the big Wembley pitch last season lol.
Nick Real Deal
Vital Football Legend
I was wondering about this. Our tactics for next season. Rose won't be back so we don't have searing pace on the flanks potentially.
Our opponents will suss us out and gear up accordingly. I don't mind the backs staying deeper and sending in diagonal balls instead of heading for the touchline and cutting back etc.
Our opponents will suss us out and gear up accordingly. I don't mind the backs staying deeper and sending in diagonal balls instead of heading for the touchline and cutting back etc.
Spursex
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Oh I hope this is true and not just more press BS...
Walker may well end up a bench warmer..!!!
City to fight Chelsea for Real’s £21m Danilo
Duncan Castles
July 16 2017, 12:01am, The Sunday Times
Real deal: Chelsea and Manchester City are in competition to sign Danilo
RUBEN ALBARRAN
Chelsea yesterday completed the £40m signing of midfielder Tiemoue Bakayoko from Monaco but now face competition from Manchester City for another of their summer targets. Brazil international Danilo is wanted by both Premier League clubs and is expected to cost a minimum of €25m (£21.9m).
Chelsea and Juventus were thought to be leading the way for the Real Madrid defender but City have now made an approach as they seek to meet Pep Guardiola’s lavish demands for a full cohort of new full-backs. If City were to pay the expected asking price it would take their summer spend on transfer fees for right- backs alone to more than £70m, after the recruitment of Kyle Walker for what could amount to £50m.
As The Sunday Times first reported in October last year, Guardiola asked his employers to furnish him with two new right-backs and two new left-backs in the current transfer window. At the tail-end of last season, the Catalan publicly expressed his frustration with the players he has been using to fill positions of significant importance to his tactics — most notably Gael Clichy, Pablo Zabaleta, Bacary Sagna and Aleksandar Kolarov — stating that “they have no talent in the legs to go up and down”.
Walker’s representatives stated that his signing involved a “record fee for a defender and record fee for an English player”, indicating that the cost was higher still, surpassing City deals for John Stones and Raheem Sterling.
The 27-year-old’s purchase followed the unexpected collapse of a deal to reunite Dani Alves with Guardiola. Guardiola, who won two Champions League and three Spanish titles at Barcelona with Dani as a first-choice full back, had met the 34-year-old the previous day in the expectation that a verbally agreed free transfer from Juventus was about to be completed.
Instead, Chelsea, Manchester United and Paris Saint-Germain inquired about gazumping City’s deal, with the French club ultimately persuading the Brazilian to turn his back on Guardiola by means of a series of persuasive phone calls and a lucrative financial package worth around 60% more than the offer from the Etihad.
Ironically, given the size of the fee City subsequently committed to Walker’s transfer, Dani had been assured by the Premier League club that he would be their starting right-back for the coming campaign, taking a particular responsibility for Champions League and key domestic fixtures.
In addition to their pursuit of Danilo, City have also gone head-to-head with Chelsea for Juventus left-back Alex Sandro, who is valued by the Italian champions at £60m. Other candidates for the left side of Guardiola’s defence include Southampton left-back Ryan Bertrand, who is also coveted by Liverpool and priced aggressively by the south coast club, and Benjamin Mendy, for whom Monaco have asked €65m (£56.9m).
Walker may well end up a bench warmer..!!!
City to fight Chelsea for Real’s £21m Danilo
Duncan Castles
July 16 2017, 12:01am, The Sunday Times
Real deal: Chelsea and Manchester City are in competition to sign Danilo
RUBEN ALBARRAN
Chelsea yesterday completed the £40m signing of midfielder Tiemoue Bakayoko from Monaco but now face competition from Manchester City for another of their summer targets. Brazil international Danilo is wanted by both Premier League clubs and is expected to cost a minimum of €25m (£21.9m).
Chelsea and Juventus were thought to be leading the way for the Real Madrid defender but City have now made an approach as they seek to meet Pep Guardiola’s lavish demands for a full cohort of new full-backs. If City were to pay the expected asking price it would take their summer spend on transfer fees for right- backs alone to more than £70m, after the recruitment of Kyle Walker for what could amount to £50m.
As The Sunday Times first reported in October last year, Guardiola asked his employers to furnish him with two new right-backs and two new left-backs in the current transfer window. At the tail-end of last season, the Catalan publicly expressed his frustration with the players he has been using to fill positions of significant importance to his tactics — most notably Gael Clichy, Pablo Zabaleta, Bacary Sagna and Aleksandar Kolarov — stating that “they have no talent in the legs to go up and down”.
Walker’s representatives stated that his signing involved a “record fee for a defender and record fee for an English player”, indicating that the cost was higher still, surpassing City deals for John Stones and Raheem Sterling.
The 27-year-old’s purchase followed the unexpected collapse of a deal to reunite Dani Alves with Guardiola. Guardiola, who won two Champions League and three Spanish titles at Barcelona with Dani as a first-choice full back, had met the 34-year-old the previous day in the expectation that a verbally agreed free transfer from Juventus was about to be completed.
Instead, Chelsea, Manchester United and Paris Saint-Germain inquired about gazumping City’s deal, with the French club ultimately persuading the Brazilian to turn his back on Guardiola by means of a series of persuasive phone calls and a lucrative financial package worth around 60% more than the offer from the Etihad.
Ironically, given the size of the fee City subsequently committed to Walker’s transfer, Dani had been assured by the Premier League club that he would be their starting right-back for the coming campaign, taking a particular responsibility for Champions League and key domestic fixtures.
In addition to their pursuit of Danilo, City have also gone head-to-head with Chelsea for Juventus left-back Alex Sandro, who is valued by the Italian champions at £60m. Other candidates for the left side of Guardiola’s defence include Southampton left-back Ryan Bertrand, who is also coveted by Liverpool and priced aggressively by the south coast club, and Benjamin Mendy, for whom Monaco have asked €65m (£56.9m).
Real Deal
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We have to be realistic PJ, we won't be signing PSG number 1 RB.
I like the look of Perreira. He has loads of talent, pace, stamina that Walker had. Can play RWB/LWB. He isn't the finished article but the basics are there.
Cedric from the saints is the best RB we can get around from what I have seen. He would cost 30m easily though.
I like the look of Perreira. He has loads of talent, pace, stamina that Walker had. Can play RWB/LWB. He isn't the finished article but the basics are there.
Cedric from the saints is the best RB we can get around from what I have seen. He would cost 30m easily though.
Devon Spur
Vital 1st Team Regular
Definitely think we need a new wage ceiling. I know we have only recently signed most of our key players to new deals, but Kane and Alli should be on 150k + bonuses and the 2nd tier elite players like Lloris, Eriksen, Son etc should be on 80-100k. We need to be able to sign promising youngsters to develop, but these players are expecting to be on 80k+ minimum once they seal a deal to a large European club, and with the list of teams willing to pay those wages, we are going to struggle to enable a good transfer strategy over the next few years of paying off the stadium. It is all well and good pointing out players like Alli and saying "you don't need to spend big money to find talent", but players like him are 1 in a million, to step up that seamlessly from 2 divisions below and become a key player in one of the top sides in the country is very rare indeed.
We are stuck signing third rate players from Europe because we will only pay third rate wages. The Sissoko signing proves how terrified we are to sign players who will demand the same or more as Kane. We are quite happy to spend big on the transfer fee but they know it will be more expensive to upset the wage structure and give everyone wage increases. But, in my opinion, it is better to spend double the money and pay double the wages on a player you know will fit, than spend the same on third rate "potential" players hoping to strike a bargain every time. I don't disagree with astute business and identifying the best targets in a certain price range, but we must also be willing to identify targets in the brackets above that as well.
It does make me wish all the more that Lamela and Sissoko had been resounding successes, every time we break our transfer record it seems the player inevitably lets us down, the rare exception being Modric (who even himself looked like he might leave after that first season). It's the sort of trend that can strengthen misconceptions like, when we spend big, the player fails, when really, the lesson learned should be, when spending big, we are incorrectly identifying the correct type of player to spend big on. We should have spent £30m on a striker and £16m (or whatever Janssen cost) on a midfielder, as we were very strong in MF without Sissoko the whole season, whereas having a top quality striker would have given us more flexibility in the final third. We really need to assess our scouting team and find out how to better equip ourselves during the transfer market, I feel the trend over the years of big money failures has to go beyond Poch.
rackny
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Im not pissed that Walker has gone as I think Tripps is a more than capable replacement and it gives KWP more of a chance.
I am pissed though that we missed a trick by not taking one of theirs as part of the deal to strengthen our squad. We should have insisted on Ineacheo IMO. :26:
I am pissed though that we missed a trick by not taking one of theirs as part of the deal to strengthen our squad. We should have insisted on Ineacheo IMO. :26:
Nick Real Deal
Vital Football Legend
Incredibly Trippier created the same number of chances as Walker playing 25 fewer games. 84 chances. Mainly down to far better crossing.
Matic
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Wasn't it Linekar that said on Twitter - "imagine how much Walker would have cost if he could cross a ball!"
As much as I love Walker, that's a very accurate assessment. Pereira looks a decent crosser from what I've seen. Although there are rumours that we have dropped our interest in him because he wants the Juve move.
I wonder if we are going to take the risk with Trips and KWP now. I'm pretty sure Levy will give Poch a reach-around if he does promote KWP and it ends up paying off.
As much as I love Walker, that's a very accurate assessment. Pereira looks a decent crosser from what I've seen. Although there are rumours that we have dropped our interest in him because he wants the Juve move.
I wonder if we are going to take the risk with Trips and KWP now. I'm pretty sure Levy will give Poch a reach-around if he does promote KWP and it ends up paying off.
Bald Archie
Vital Squad Member
Presumably our manager didn't want Ineacheo.
Don't see why people are still blaming levy for this. Clearly walker and poch have had some sort of issue and poch has wanted him gone,as is his usual style. Fair play to levy in backing poch and getting the deal done early and not stabilise the team even though waiting till later in the window would probably have given us more from the desperate big spenders.
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Perhaps. But City are the biggest spenders and offer stupid money up front to get the deal completed early. We don't want Pep stamping his foot and throwing a tantrum do we. :15:
Matic
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As much as it is frustrating me as well, we cannot blame Levy for how insane the market is at the moment. Out of all the PL teams, we easily have the most settled, capable team who SHOULD be able to win some form of silverware next season with what we already have. Really, all we're likely to be doing is strengthening our squad and for that, to spend silly money would be crazy.
Don't get me wrong, I've been getting all irate about our lack of activity but after seeing some of the other deals and rumours floating around these past few weeks, I can sort of understand why we're probably having to play it smart and unfortunately not get players in as quickly as we want.
Big Chiv
Vital Football Legend
I agree with you that we have a settled squad and I said a while back that I'm not really that bothered if we sign or not.
However, you can bet your boots that 1 or 2 signings will be made, probably in the bargain basement area of the market, in which case their is no excuse for Levy not making these signings weeks ago, and at least giving the poor suckers some chance of pre season under Poch.
CanadianSpur
Vital Squad Member
We can't presume anything in that regard. We have no idea if he was wanted by the Manager, if City would have considered a sale or if the player would have agreed to move.
Bald Archie
Vital Squad Member
Oh dear, not still trying to pick holes in my posts. :1:
Why don't you go and take issue with Rackny for his assumption that we didn't insist on Ineacheo, and then go and take issue with everyone else that posts a view and not something which is demonstrable FACT.
