As it's quiet, lets have an IN/OUT poll

Wild Willy

Vital Reserves Team
Firstly, please don't remove this thread. It has taken me ages to write it, and it's very topical. As well as that, it's probably the most important cross anyone in this country will ever put on a piece of paper. Whilst I love football and my club, there are genuinely more important things to consider.

I am voting out, and here are the reasons why. There is a reasonable chance that the country may suffer a short term dip in the economy whilst uncertainties are sorted, and trading agreements forged. We will remain in the EU if we vote out for a period of two years. This more than long enough to arrange such agreements. Personally, I can't see any further than the stupid freedom of movement policy the EU has, and this will never change. We all ready have far to many people in the country, regardless of where they come from. We don't have enough hospitals, doctors surgeries, schools, prisons, or roads. FACT, if we didn't allow any more EU immigrants into the country, it would still take 15 years of all their taxes to increase our infrastructure to where it needs to be. It won't be long before Turkey join the EU, and then God save us all. It won't be long before Angela Merkel dishes out passports to a million Syrians, who no doubt can't wait to take advantage of our NHS and generous housing policy. We have little say over our laws, and every year the EU make up thousands of rules which are ignored by most member states, but of course the UK are anal about such things. If we get out on the 23rd, we will regain control of our borders, we can forge strong relationships with other European countries, and have the freedom to trade as we want with countries outside the EU, this is something we can't do at present.
 
This is a really good idea Mr.Dick but it gets a bit confusing having this thread amongst all the Spurs stuff. Perhaps, if we could have another part of the forum created that is devoted to non-spurs threads? How does that sound? I think I'm onto something here..
 
A good question but should have been in a different forum. No need to call the poster names though - very rude.
 
and how could Turkey join the EU exactly in the next 20yrs even ?

all it would take is 1 ity-bity country out of currently 28 to veto the idea(and many of them East Europeans are neo-fascist as hell).

44% of our trade is with the EU, BY FAR our largest trading partner. but ONLY 6% of THEIR trade is with the UK.

if we leave they will not allow us good trading terms and will impose high tariffs on our exports to them, as they will want to make an example of a quitter to deter others who may flirt with the same idea.

we are not gonna sell even 5% of that 44% to the likes of the often quoted 'trading partners' Canada and Australia, with their smaller populations. In any case what exactly would we sell to them apart from medicines from our world-class pharmaceutical-sector... sweet FA after that.

we will be in a huge recession with EVEN LESS money for things like NHS and other social services, with an ever-ageing population to draw on those services.

and thats just tip of the iceberg.

within the last week, when the Media blitzes pensioners on the likely decrease in future pensions and less money on their ever-increasing healthcare needs, they will vote with their heads.

not their bile-ducts.
 
Can we move this please mods. The last thing I want to discuss with a months tournament footie coming up is this dull shite.
 
our economy is struggling because of Tory austerity - not the 0.3% of income we pay to the EU (and then get almost half of it back).

Johnson, Gove, Farage all want out and would impose further austerity. So if you really want to give those bozos free reign to do what they like, by all means vote leave.
 
and Labour overspending!

but austerity is never the answer, and especially not scapegoating the (0.3%-budget-spend-of-which-we-get-almost-half-back-anyway) EU.

There is making morally justifiable cuts, and then there is austerity - and the Tories do it with a golden handshake to themselves, chronic tax evaders and bankers. hypocrites! More of it if we leave and let Boris run the place.