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All Time 11 Villa Team.

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#1
following the threads, this is for the wall at Villa Park.

The one thing I hope, is that the midfielder who led the team to the league and European Cup is one of them. If not, the whole thing would be awful wouldn't it?!


https://forums.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/all-time-top-11-goalkeepers-defence.99408/page-9
https://forums.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/all-time-11-midfielders-strikers.99411/page-10

In a game of opinions there could be endless hours of debate on this before we even get to the players themselves! To help with this, we have created some parameters from the outset.



  • Formation





To make the short list, we would ask that players have:



Played at least 100 times for AVFC

and / or

won a major trophy

and / or

played in a promotion season


Any of the three above will do.
 

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#2
The lists we have:

GOALKEEPERS
Jim Cumbes
Nigel Sims
John Burridge
Jimmy Rimmer
Nigel Spink
Mark Bosnich
David James
Peter Schmeichel

Thomas Sorensen
Brad Friedel
Shay Given
Jed Steer
 
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The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#3
Wing:

Paul Merson
Tony Morley
Mark Walters
Tony Daley
Ray Graydon
Willie Anderson
Ashley Young
Ray Houghton (not 100 but was part of the 94 league cup team, unused sub at final)
Charlie Athersmith
Eric Houghton
Frank Carodus
Jimmy McEwan
 
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The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#4
Mid:

Dennis Mortimer
Gareth Barry
Gordon Cowans
Ian Taylor
Des Bremner
Vic Crowe
Andy Townsend (2 time league cup winner and captain the second time around)



Alex Cropley (1977 league cup not 100 appearances)
Alan Deakin
Chico Hamilton
David Platt
Jack Grealish (should be discounted for his recent ridiculous actions in my humble, but many will probably disagree)
Bruce Rioch
Kevin Richardson
John McGinn (not 100 but involved in promotion, not all time best yet for me)
James Milner (27 were on loan, just did 100 but not really all time Villa)
Paul Birch
Pat McMahon
 
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The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#5
Striker:

Brian Little
Peter Withe
Gary Shaw
Pongo Waring
Peter McParland (league cup, fa cup)
Andy Gray (league cup winner)
Dwight Yorke (league cup winner)
Dean Saunders (league cup winner)
Dalian Atkinson (league cup winner)
John Deehan (league cup winner)

Or:

Billy Walker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Walker_(English_footballer)

I'd be happy to leave one of the others out, but who?!



Not making the list?


George Ramsey
Archie Hunter
Harry Hampton
Juan Pablo Angel (nice guy, but 1 in 4 goals, not all time is he?)
John Carew
Dion Dublin
Alan McInally
Andy Lochhead
Christian Benteke
Gerry Hitchens
Gabby Agbonlahor (long serving but 1 in 4.5 goal ratio and a lot of history)
Johnny Dixon
Tony Hateley
Garry Thompson
Keith Leonard
 
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The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#7
And no disrespect, but please don't spam up this thread, I will delete, we have the other threads if you want to have some banter!
 

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#8
Slowly going through and crossing out, as an early way to hone down the lists, 100 times for us.

We can add back if they fit other criteria.
 
#10
DEFENDERS

George Curtis
Charlie Aitken LB
Jimmy Dugdale
John Sleeuwenhoek
Leighton Phillips CH
Stan Lynn
Bobby McDonald
Ian Ross CH
John Robson LB
Chris Nicholl CH
Gary Williams LB
Colin Gibson LB
John Gidman RB
Kenny Swain RB
Ken McNaught CH
Allan Evans CH
Tony Dorigo LB
Derek Mountfield CH
Earl Barrett RB
Paul McGrath CH
Kent Nielsen CH
Fernando Nelson RB
Gareth Southgate CH
Ugo Ehiogu CH
Alan Wright LB
Steve Staunton LB
Mark Delaney RB
Olof Mellberg CH
Martin Laursen CH
Wilfred Bouma LB
Alan Hutton RB
Tyrone Mings CH

John Gidman (RB)
Martin Laursen (CH)
Olof Mellberg (CH)
Jimmy Dugdale (CH)
Alan Deakin (full back I assume)
Leighton Phillips (def)
I thought Bobby Macdonald wasa midfielder but if he played in defence I think it would have been right bcak. Hope the rest helps
 

JP Healy

Vital Squad Member
#11
Alan Deakin wa
I thought Bobby Macdonald wasa midfielder but if he played in defence I think it would have been right bcak. Hope the rest helps[/QUOTE. Bobby was a left full back in the youth cup winning team but Uncle Ronnie also used him as a midfielder. Alan Deakin was a left sided midfielder Whist Leighton Phillips came as a midfielder but had a great spell partnering Chris Nicholl.
 

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#12
List updated, with thanks to sirdennis

Charlie Aitken LB
John Robson LB
Gary Williams LB
Colin Gibson LB
Tony Dorigo LB
Alan Wright LB
Steve Staunton LB
Wilfred Bouma LB
Bobby McDonald LB

John Gidman RB
Kenny Swain RB
Earl Barrett RB
Fernando Nelson RB
Mark Delaney RB
John Gidman RB
Alan Hutton RB
Stan Lynn RB

Leighton Phillips CH
Ian Ross CH
Chris Nicholl CH
Ken McNaught CH
Allan Evans CH
Derek Mountfield CH
Paul McGrath CH
Kent Nielsen CH
Gareth Southgate CH
Ugo Ehiogu CH
Olof Mellberg CH
Martin Laursen CH
Tyrone Mings CH
Martin Laursen CH
Jimmy Dugdale CH
John Sleeuwenhoek CH

George Curtis Can only see he played as a defender, but then he was only about 39 games so discounted anyway.
 

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#13
Closed the thread for now, so as to avoid any confusion.

Please have a look at the goalkeeper and defender lists and let me know any opinions on any to remove, maybe to add, but only if really deserving.

Will work through mid and strikers in the next few days and do threads.
 

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#17
Thanks for the help folks

These are the lists I've submitted.

Goalkeepers:

Jimmy Rimmer
Nigel Spink
Mark Bosnich

Right Backs:

John Gidman RB
Kenny Swain RB
Earl Barrett RB
Fernando Nelson RB
Mark Delaney RB
Alan Hutton RB
Stan Lynn RB
Chris Price RB
Mick Wright RB
George Cummings (could play RB, CB and LB)

Centre-backs:

Ken McNaught
Allan Evans
Paul McGrath
John Sleeuwenhoek
Ugo Ehiogu
Olof Mellberg
Jimmy Dugdale
Ian Ross
Chris Nicholl
Leighton Phillips

Left Backs:

Charlie Aitken LB
John Robson LB
Gary Williams LB
Colin Gibson LB
Alan Wright LB
Steve Staunton LB
Wilfred Bouma LB
Bobby McDonald LB
Howard Spencer LB
Jimmy Crabtree LB

Midfielders:

Dennis Mortimer
Gareth Barry
Gordon Cowans
Ian Taylor
Des Bremner
Vic Crowe
Andy Townsend
David Platt

Wingers:

Peter McParland (Left)
Tony Morley (Left)
Mark Walters (Left)
Harry Burrows (Left)
Willie Anderson (Left)

Ashley Young (Right - and left!)
Tony Daley (Right, but sometimes left)
Jimmy McEwan (Right)
Ray Graydon (Right)
Charlie Athersmith
Eric Houghton

Strikers:

Brian Little
Peter Withe
Gary Shaw
Pongo Waring
Billy Walker
Gerry Hitchens
Johnny Dixon
Andy Gray
Dwight Yorke
Andy Lockhead
 

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#18
Now we can all say our all time teams from that list for a bit of fun (the Club will come up with the way they do this for the official wall)
 

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
#19
So FROM THE SUBMITTED LIST ONLY

My team:

Goalkeeper: Nigel Spink (could have been any of them)

RB: John Gidman

LB: Charlie Aitken

CB: Ken McNaught - Paul McGrath

Wingers: Tony Morley - Ashley Young

Midfielders: Dennis Mortimer (Captain) - Sid Cowans

Strikers: Brian Little - It must be, it is... Peter Withe (Very close between him and Pongo Waring from what I've read about Pongo)
 
#20
Based on the list and who I have actually seen play (as opposed to reputation etc.), complete with 'proper' shirt numbers and old-school one sub:

1. Mark Bosnich
2. Mark Delaney
3. Gary Williams
4. Olof Mellberg
5. Paul McGrath
6. Dennis Mortimer (c)
7. Ashley Young
8. Gordon Cowans
9. Peter Withe
10. Dwight Yorke
11. Tony Daley

Sub: 12. Gareth Barry