Aliens are amongst us

[Villan Of The North]

I do worry about a thread that has the expression about "great minds" when one of those minds is Clive :3:

 

[Villan Of The North]

BodyButter - 14/8/2015 07:24

If we think of the universe as the creation of consciousness, then death is probably not the end. Can consciousness exist outside of the 'reality' of the universe?

And visa versa, can the "reality" of the universe exist outside of consciousness?

I like to think that, if reality is just a construct of consciousness then it has to be a matrix of consciousnesses, otherwise it would take a pretty sick mind to conjure a reality that works against one's own best interests. If anyone has read the Red Dwarf book Better than Life they will know exactly where I'm going with this idea.

I prefer to think of the universe as being real and it's my perception that makes ME real, not the universe. For a far better explanation and understanding of this concept, check out the writings of French philosopher Rene Descartes.

 

[Villan Of The North]

col8 - 14/8/2015 08:32

Aliens amongst us, my wedding anniversary yesterday 38 years dont talk to me about aliens......

Errrr....congratulations?

 

[astonion]

There are a couple of strange looking creatures that drink in my local. One even claims to be a woman. Nah surely not.

 

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Stephen Jay Hawkings - 14/8/2015 03:39

ClivetheVillan - 14/8/2015 02:08

Me and the mrs still have these chats now and again :19: she is adament we am bacteria of some form but nowadays i tend to go for the universe is projected from the mind experiancing oursleves from one source, and there may be many levels which explains the reason why protons vanish when not observed science found this would mean atoms etc am not there until there is an observer so our minds is like a projector in this reality we know........see om still mental after all these years :139:

lol "still crazy after all these years" someone once sang :17:

Quantum Enigma is a great book I've read, and touches on what you've said there. You can look at at something simple like a chair and think it's real but in the quantum world it's being held together by your own observation, and when not, it's in a state of "superposition" or in other words, all states simultaneously.

I totally agree about the one consciousness theory too, although it pisses me off when New Ageists and religious types refer to that as "God", it's just trying to validate and justify their own beliefs, while science will always be discovering more and more wonderful and insane things and we keep progressing forward. We know nothing yet (Jon Snow) and that should be the sole reason to keep going and discovering what the hell this is all about

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May have to look that book up mate cheers, it is just fascinating and i lose myself for hours watching documentaries on these kind of subjects on youtube in bed on the iPhone with earphones plugged in,

The thing that gets me into this thought about the conscious is the science that is actually proving it to an extent today as you pointed out aswell, an atom is made up of empty space plus our senses have to transmit the information we receive from reality into electric currents we then process into images in our brain, there could be more whackyness to reality than we think right now thats for sure like we am in some form of virtual conscious reality dimensional life in time, but these am great subjects to look at i feel, love to see other folkks idea's cos it makes you think :35:

 

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BodyButter - 14/8/2015 06:24

If we think of the universe as the creation of consciousness, then death is probably not the end. Can consciousness exist outside of the 'reality' of the universe?

Could well be th case mate, the thing i always mention to people that laff at these subjects when mentioned is this:-

You am born inside a rock that is floating around in empty space warmed by a giant fireball with other rocks and gasses circling it and yet there is giant balck holes gigantic that eats other rocks and firealls in space, then with senses that we use to perceive reality that has to process from light and sound waves into electric signals we then transfer by our brains telling us what they am,,,,now after this am yo surporised by anything else thats whacky :17: