Airbus A320 Plane Crash in France: 150 Feared Dead.

Thomas Holte

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This awful crash happened this morning. It brings situations like this closer to home as my son is based in Nantes (France) and works for a Spanish airline as cabin crew..

My thoughts of condolence go out to the passengers and crew sadly lost and families and friends connected.



"A passenger plane has crashed in France, with all 150 people on board thought to have died.



The Airbus A320, operated by Lufthansa's Germanwings budget airline, came down in the southern French Alps between Barcelonnette and Digne.

Flight 4U 9525 sent out a distress signal at 10.47am (9.47am UK time) after finding itself in an "abnormal situation" on its route from Barcelona to Dusseldorf."

Article Continues..... http://news.sky.com/story/1451536/no-survivors-expected-in-france-plane-crash
 
It's scary the amount of crashes there have been in the last year. Granted 1 is some sort of strange circumstances. Then again if we look at the amount of plane crashes that happen the crashes are so minimal.

The thing with plane crashes is it is rare anyone survives. RIP to you all and thoughts with those who have been left
 
Are airlines now cutting costs and cutting corners to make more profit??

I always thought airplanes had a safety check before take off, couldn't be further from the truth. Imagine some of the close calls plans have that the public dont know about?

I have 6 internal flights coming up in vietnam soon, gulp
 
kefkat - 24/3/2015 12:47

It's scary the amount of crashes there have been in the last year.

Actually Kef this is a bit of a myth, the amount of crashes is pretty consistent year on year, it's just with modern news coverage we get an in depth global coverage.

Here have a look at the list of commercial accidents listed here -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft


I think you will be surprised how many crashes happen each year.
 
simont123 - 24/3/2015 12:54

Are airlines now cutting costs and cutting corners to make more profit??

No, airlines are safer now than ever, accidents will always happen, check out the link I posted above.
 
thefacehead - 24/3/2015 20:11

simont123 - 24/3/2015 12:54

Are airlines now cutting costs and cutting corners to make more profit??

No, airlines are safer now than ever, accidents will always happen, check out the link I posted above.



Agreed.

When you think of the number of planes in the air at any given time, you are always going to get the odd accident. It's just because aircraft are such a size, to lose 150 makes it a tragedy by definition.

 
Somehow, the fact that this plane took off from Barcelona, an airport that I've flown from, makes it even more horrific.
RIP to 150 people (some of them very young) who woke up this morning, not realising they were only hours from a sudden and shocking death.
 
Scary and very upsetting, feel for the families who's lives will never be the same again for there loss, such a tradegy indeed.
 
Pride of Lions - 24/3/2015 15:06

thefacehead - 24/3/2015 20:11

simont123 - 24/3/2015 12:54

Are airlines now cutting costs and cutting corners to make more profit??

No, airlines are safer now than ever, accidents will always happen, check out the link I posted above.



Agreed.

When you think of the number of planes in the air at any given time, you are always going to get the odd accident. It's just because aircraft are such a size, to lose 150 makes it a tragedy by definition.

Literally bad luck, so sad when it happens, but 1000's of people die on the roads around the world each day, but like you say, the sheer number makes it big news, and yes tragic.

So sad, there were 2 babies on board, and 16 school children, I don't even want to imagine what the last few moments of those poor kids lives was like.
 
thefacehead - 24/3/2015 13:09

kefkat - 24/3/2015 12:47

It's scary the amount of crashes there have been in the last year.

Actually Kef this is a bit of a myth, the amount of crashes is pretty consistent year on year, it's just with modern news coverage we get an in depth global coverage.

Here have a look at the list of commercial accidents listed here -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft


I think you will be surprised how many crashes happen each year.

Thanks for the link Face. Interesting. However as we have said, it is very minuet the no's who are involved in accident by aircraft each year. Just it seems so much bigger because they are usually all fatal.
 
http://planefinder.net/

when you look at the actual number of planes above North America and Europe is it not surprising there are more accidents.
 
simont123 - 24/3/2015 12:54

Are airlines now cutting costs and cutting corners to make more profit??

I always thought airplanes had a safety check before take off, couldn't be further from the truth. Imagine some of the close calls plans have that the public dont know about?

I have 6 internal flights coming up in vietnam soon, gulp

Na'h don't think so.

They are regularly serviced. Apparently this one was serviced a day before the accident.

But things can still go wrong. I'd imagine it's not a fool proof exercise getting an airplane 100% safe. So many factors.

I flew German Wings to Krakow last year. Could have been that plane. Scary.
 
DeanoVilla - 25/3/2015 08:03

simont123 - 24/3/2015 12:54

Are airlines now cutting costs and cutting corners to make more profit??

I always thought airplanes had a safety check before take off, couldn't be further from the truth. Imagine some of the close calls plans have that the public dont know about?

I have 6 internal flights coming up in vietnam soon, gulp

Na'h don't think so.

They are regularly serviced. Apparently this one was serviced a day before the accident.

But things can still go wrong. I'd imagine it's not a fool proof exercise getting an airplane 100% safe. So many factors.

I flew German Wings to Krakow last year. Could have been that plane. Scary.

Aircraft are maintained through a series of "checks" which happen usually after a certain number of cycles (a cycle being a take off and landing). They are governed by EASA in Europe and there is no way of cutting corners, as this would result in criminal charges against individuals and companies. A "D Check" practically takes the aeroplane a part to inspect.

Before each flight, no matter what size of aircraft pilots will do a walk around check. This is to make sure that the aircraft is structurally sound for flight, and there's no obvious damage or leaks etc.

I'd fly on a Germanwings aircraft tomorrow but I guess that may be because I understand in places just how much 'safety' is built into aircraft. Many aircraft systems have 1 or 2 backup options, and key areas also have been designed that if they are going to fail, they fail in a predetermined manner that isn't critical to flight.
 
Reports now that one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit according to the voice recorder black box....

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pilot-locked-crash-jets-cockpit-report-045458811.html?vp=1#23NWLsr

Why wasn't he let back in by the other pilot?...... Very strange.

 
Yeah very strange.

Maybe the other pilot was taken ill, feinted or collapsed? Maybe he was to busy trying not to crash to be able to open the door? Maybe something more sinister?
 
Yes I read that: My mind went straight to terrorism, as that is the world we live in now. They say it is unlikely to be terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.

I suppose they must have reason to think it isn't. However it seems sinister to me. OK the door could have malfunctioned when the 1 pilot went out. Why could only 1 pilot be heard trying to get in. I suppose the other pilot, as been said could have been taken ill.

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A quarter way down the page of the link I am posting, gives a link to an article of analysis about the cockpit. As it says if a pilot can't open the door he has a code to over ride it. The pilot still in the cockpit can over ride that code and lock the door from the inside.

I hope to God this is not another terrorist attack. I really do.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32062278
 
Terrorism. Just announced it was deliberate

http://news.sky.com/story/1453092/alps-co-pilot-crashed-deliberately-prosecutor
 
gator - 26/3/2015 11:54

No way it will be terrorism somebody would have glorified in it by now.

The link says it was deliberate, so what other word would you use? There are many that are lone wolfs in the name of now