adam johnson

gator - 3/3/2016 23:07

Thought the judge has told him he will get between 5 and 10 years.
Mike the law must have changed on releasing them on bail whilst awaiting a significant sentence then because Iv'e never known it.
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Gator - 'serve' doesn't include suspended sentences etc. Can serve 10 years, 9 suspended and be out on licence in 4 months etc.

Also doubt highly the judge would comment at this stage on even a maximum because it is very low key in the scale (however I shiver when saying that) and it was one person....not multiple with a pattern.

I would guess whatever you read mate took the quote from the judge saying he could 'expect' a custodial sentence only and then with the typical and totally ethical media we have in this country, some twat searches for what Joseph Fritzel(sp) might get in this country and calls that the maximum.

When the truth is so far removed - the truth being so far removed as the person who penned the report describing themselves as an ethical journalist.

As said it won't be that significant mate. There are scales. There was no violence etc, and in this case don't even have to worry about skipping etc as to get his own life back on track, he needs to serve the months he's given, slip into next season's backpages by being good and quiet.

Remanded until boils down to potential sentence/type of crime/severity and flight risk etc.

If this was a Fritzel(sp) type case which is obviously isn't - he wouldn't get bail in my humble.
 
Adam Johnson was told by the judge to "say goodbye to your daughter" as he warned the footballer he could face a lengthy prison sentence.

Just before he left the dock, Judge Rose told Johnson that being released on bail meant he could get his "affairs in order".

He said: "You can say goodbye to your daughter. A prison sentence will mean you will not see her for some time."

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-03-02/judge-tells-johnson-to-say-goodbye-to-your-daughter/
 
Green Tea - 3/3/2016 23:47

mike_field - 3/3/2016 21:24

Which idiot in the press has claimed ten years?

He'll get custodial mainly because he's a public figure and to set an example, but it won't be long. 18 months might be a decent shout even if on the high side, minimum security and he'll be long out in half that.

On the scale these are minor offences (even given the age gap) - an unknown would likely get register and suspended would be my guess.
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Pleading guilty to grooming makes the offence committed far from minor.

Grooming = training a child to commit acts that they wouldn't otherwise of done. And then also plead guilty to kissing with tongues and found guilty of touching the girl inappropriately?

Grooming can look in court for the jury that he took the girl's innocence. He groomed, trained, coaxed her into doing things of a sexual nature.

However, if it is a case of a guy being pestered by a girl that wants to ride him, loves him and is already sexually active. Then the case for grooming can be challenged, in that she is doing what she wants and in full control of her own sexual motions. And that he is "wrongly" following up and fulfilling her desires.

Like I say; if he took her innocence and did in fact groom her as to fill his own sexual desires, he deserves all he gets.

But if its a case of the former, then a custodial sentence for me would be very harsh.
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PMSL - you're now trying to teach me the law oh so understanding and educated tutor.

Let's move on from your lack of understand of the law, and physics for that matter - let alone theology and life.

Do you understand the word 'minor'?

Clearly not it was this 'minor's fault' who got what she wanted according to your absolutely retarded way of thinking, hence why custardy (your level of thinking) would be harsh.

A 'minEr' can also be somebody who forceably tunnels into deep holes - but that doesn't apply - I'm just trying to help.

Is grooming compared to murder 'minor'?

Allows you time to search what murder might be.

Ho hum.

As for the rest - I really hope the families lawyers are looking at the internet.

The only thing that makes you more retarded and wrong is the fact you clearly don't think you are.

But thank you for helping my rumination.

You live up to every standard I now apply to you.

ps - you have no character to defame with your submissions but I'm not lowering myself, I will just continue to point out what a troll you are until I get that glorious email that makes me smile and makes me make a choice on your future - that's now the way the world works master, problem for you is this padawan (like other members of this forum) are so far ahead of you even our deaths and you having the next 200 years to catch up wouldn't see you get close.

As you keep getting proven for the troll you are, a public service is provided.

If you have an issue - get a tissue and PM.
 
Green Tea - 4/3/2016 00:49

Adam Johnson was told by the judge to "say goodbye to your daughter" as he warned the footballer he could face a lengthy prison sentence.

Just before he left the dock, Judge Rose told Johnson that being released on bail meant he could get his "affairs in order".

He said: "You can say goodbye to your daughter. A prison sentence will mean you will not see her for some time."

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-03-02/judge-tells-johnson-to-say-goodbye-to-your-daughter
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Wibble wibble wibble.

It's on ITV, next to I'm A Troll Get Me Out Of Here.
 
Clearly not it was this 'minor's fault'who got what she wanted according to your absolutely retarded way of thinking, hence why custardy (your level of thinking) would be harsh.

Be careful of slander mike, - I never said this at all!
 
Be careful of not knowing the law GT - I have your comments in the previous thread well archived.

An element of slander (PMSL you don't even know the difference between slander and libel!) is special knowledge and intimation comes into that dear master.

However, if it is a case of a guy being pestered by a girl that wants to ride him, loves him and is already sexually active. Then the case for grooming can be challenged, in that she is doing what she wants and in full control of her own sexual motions. And that he is "wrongly" following up and fulfilling her desires. Like I say; if he took her innocence and did in fact groom her as to fill his own sexual desires, he deserves all he gets. But if its a case of the former, then a custodial sentence for me would be very harsh.
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Oh master do you agree those are your words?

Oh master are you arguing one of the charges Mr Johnson plead guilty to ahead of a trial by his peers?

Oh master you want you to challenge what he didn't?

Oh master please educate me.

Oh master are you struggling now because I'm shying away from just telling you to fuck off and be quiet?

Please master educate me, I am forever your far more intelligent padawan.
 
Code: 
http://www.google.co.uk

Come on master, it's available to us all, the Force is free but sometimes you have to pay for genital herpes but maybe I can help your discharge.
 
It is slander.

You are making out I said something, that I never. It is a serious accusation against me!

You understand the word "if" don't you?
 
It is not slander.

If you want to accuse me of something please get it right.

I again refer my master to google.

ps - you ask me if I understand 'if' what have you demonstrated you understand so far when questioned about words???

Come on master - must do better.

Or was she up for it, did she flirt, contact, go after her desires towards a footballer she clearly was infatuated with? There is a huge difference between "Training" and coaxing a child(ie grooming) into doing something they wouldn't have thought of. To being mutually involved and wanting something!"

Really - called before and called again oh master.

For those reading, this was one of the charges Mr Johnson plead guilty to ahead of the trial by his peers - my tutor seems to know better.

Despite not knowing the difference between 'training' 'grooming' and 'coaxing' a child.

As of course she had to be 'mutually involved and wanting something'.

Your own words master...don't slander (PMSL) the messenger.
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Be careful of not knowing the law GT - I have your comments in the previous thread well archived.

Just mine, or the whole topic and EVERYONE that posted on it?

Like I say be careful mike.

Some posters called Johnson a nonce/peado etc and made a pre judgement on the guy during a well documented trial. If you seriously think you can single me out for expressing an opinion, then you are far wrong. You will doing it against many other posters, including yourself and this site as a whole.



 
mike_field - 4/3/2016 01:41

It is not slander.

If you want to accuse me of something please get it right.

I again refer my master to google.

ps - you ask me if I understand 'if' what have you demonstrated you understand so far when questioned about words???

Come on master - must do better.

Or was she up for it, did she flirt, contact, go after her desires towards a footballer she clearly was infatuated with? There is a huge difference between "Training" and coaxing a child(ie grooming) into doing something they wouldn't have thought of. To being mutually involved and wanting something!"

Really - called before and called again oh master.

For those reading, this was one of the charges Mr Johnson plead guilty to ahead of the trial by his peers - my tutor seems to know better.

Despite not knowing the difference between 'training' 'grooming' and 'coaxing' a child.

As of course she had to be 'mutually involved and wanting something'.

Your own words master...don't slander (PMSL) the messenger.
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Nothing wrong with that either. There is no direct accuassion(like you made towards me) or any judgement made by me, they are fucking questions. Is that your best shot?

Do you understand the words WAS & DID?

However calling Johnson a peado is a criminal offence. Committed by members on this site.

So like I say - be careful!
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Oh I'm happy to say everyone's comments are archived....your's on the one that stand out though.

Be careful of what master...please warn me.

Environmental action? A breach of the peace? Industrial espionage?

I told you in the last thread GT I'm not the one who needs to be careful.

You continue in the same vain, you clearly don't understand why and I offered a PM.

I can only help you master so far, but if you think you know better....

PMSL you really want to attempt the contempt argument - says the man arguing you'd challenge what he admitted?

I again refer you to google.

Makes a change with your responses - have I touched a nerve. Have you maybe searched a little instead of just babbling and trying to invent things to suit your troll devils advocate nature and realise the wicket of sticky you are on?

You can believe I'm taking the piss and enjoying this, or you can believe daftly I'm actually trying to help because you are somebody who posts with no logic and no understanding of the law, and you ignored absolutely everyone who told you to step back.

That's brilliant in some threads, it helps make the forum tick - this topic however - you haven't stopped.

I stand by what I said in the other thread that you think was removed because of others.

Are you going to keep fudging what you've said and blame others?

PM is still open.

ps - to help - the previous thread nobody showed a pre judgement until the guilty charges were admitted. I was watching that as well master.

This is now the second thread and you're now looking for excuses.

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PMSL - do you want me to lean on more of your words or would rather you dial back and read my previous post?

Choice is your master.

And I didn't make an accusation against you either other than calling you a troll, and possibly earlier somebody who does devils advocate for effect - how does either damage you?

Mr Johnson admitted two acts, he was found guilty of a third and innocent of one.

People's comments are valid and legal...or do you believe all we can say (and Mr Johnson is nowhere near Mr Saville) Saville was only great for charity.

Be careful of what...major backtracking.

I again offer PM.
 
However calling Johnson a peado is a criminal offence.
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Tell me how? :14:

Maybe I should be devils advocate...nothing you say to anybody is criminal, let alone an offence, maybe other than assertions under the Official Secrets Act.
 
Makes a change with your responses - have I touched a nerve.
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Not even close.

I don't think you can ever find one post of mine where I have ever retaliated and I have taken some stick and abuse.

Maybe you are trying to be the guy that can drive Green Tea into a frenzy of giving you abuse back? It won't happen.

I am, who I am....I am either liked or disliked...I walk the path I find myself on...

I have made opinion on the trial, just like others. My last post on that archived thread should read something in the lines of; I will not comment any further until after the trial.

That one post(the last one you posted) is reason enough to take the last thread down. But now the trial is over there should be no reason to be able to offer opinions and comments.
 
Once the Jesus routine is over - let me know.

Interesting skipping of posts there though master...nothing to add on recent ones, or did it take that long and should I wait another hour?

Side step contempt whilst blaming others.

Side step slander (pmsl).

Yes it does on the last thread - but I knew you were consistent.

But you continue to claim what you claim pre trial or post trial?

Maybe you'd prefer the PM and some honesty?
 
Sunderland carried on playing him, knowing some really weird shit had gone on.

The whole thing stinks.

28 year old professional man, worldly wise and media trained.

15 year old school girl, star struck and flattered I would imagine.

For him to pursue the situation on the chance of some sexual activity or whatever is sick, I can't believe anyone would try and defend this mans actions.

a dirty little weasel this fella - and he has ruined his life
 
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