Chips1889
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Angela would run over the enemy drviing the bus TT.Under the bus is Liebour !!
Angela would run over the enemy drviing the bus TT.Under the bus is Liebour !!
No mate, and even more is spent these days.Side of the bus was lies!!
But we buy in for the NHS and have done since 1948. Not a good releigion to follow mate.If an American style health system thats put in place it won’t be free.
Too true FKB.The NHS is publicly funded, so we have the absolute right to question what happens to our £250m a day. I would like to know why it employs 1 million people, and yet only 300,000 are in positions where they have contact with patients.
Of course you have to have support and logistics and estates an all those other things, but the question would be, 'Is the NHS top heavy with jobs that don't actually do anything for patient care.' You know how it works. You give health and safety to Brian to manage and in the wink of an eye, its a department of 50 and Brian is on £80k a year, trying desperately to find risks that need managing, so they can stay on the gravy train. Ditto, Diversity,
I want the NHS to tell us how much money they need to meet their obligations fully, rather than us finding an extra £100m or £500m to shove into the bottom bucket.
I agree tha the NHS is too improtant and should be under separate control.Too true FKB.
Problem is that, whoever analyses the set up to make it patient focused and effective, will have, or be judged as having, 'an agenda' so will be rubbished by the ones who sufffer from the analysis.
Any logical 'efficency' saving is seen as a form of privatisation as savings in supply chains and job cuts produce the knee jerk squeal of 'privatisation' by Labour- even though private companies are more often more efficient than state run organisations. What Liebour means by 'privatisation' is 'paid for by the consumer ' and, to me, at some point, some form of payment has to be brought in to carry on providing the ever increasing range and length of services available.
You need someone who the public trusts and respects - a David Attenborough type figure( Chris Whitty??) - to produce and implement the report and that will take years so, maybe, a change of government would scupper that method.
That's the other problem though, it's too big for polarised politics.
The NHS should be funded bythe taxpayer but taken out of the political sphere but that's easier to say than it is to do.
Don’t forget Royal Mail they want to privatise that again which I’m all for but not enough to vote for the loonies the trade off is too great atmI agree tha the NHS is too improtant and should be under separate control.
And this means the Labour party only has rail nationalisation in it's quiver of
policies Just like 1948 but at least rationing is over in our modern world.
When I worked in a bank and was a Labour supporter I remember the call for nationalised banking. But they realised they would have trouble making it work.Don’t forget Royal Mail they want to privatise that again which I’m all for but not enough to vote for the loonies the trade off is too great atm
Privatisation works in many sectors eg gas, electric, telecoms as they have to provide a service not just a product and choice breeds competition which has to have a value for money element.When I worked in a bank and was a Labour supporter I remember the call for nationalised banking. But they realised they would have trouble making it work.
It does depend on the product Bully. Gas is gas is gas so no difference who you get it fromWell I can honestly say privatisation has had a detrimental effect on the service we provide yes we’re a leaner machine and it needed to be but the service should come first not the pound profit
The thing is all our competitors don’t have the infrastructure they are closing slowly but they will never equal it as it’s not financially viable we are bound by the uso which means we have to deliver where ever in the uk 6 days a week next day or as soon as possibleIt does depend on the product Bully. Gas is gas is gas so no difference who you get it from
From the days of being an essential service- when there was little choice -you are now one of so many other options- email, text etc so not only do you have a declining market but you can't match the speed and convenience of the newer methods.
To be viable the cost per delivery, per item, from private household to private recipient, would have to be astronomical hence the proliferation of direct mail distribution which seems to me to be the service the RM has become.Even that is becoming an outdated way of communicating when you only have to look at one online ad for eg windows and you're bombarded with links on all devices you own.
Ultimately I reckon the nationwide service will become obsolete and private delivery will be added to the range of products available from Amazon/Ebay etc.
That's where the gov't has to make a decision Bully.The thing is all our competitors don’t have the infrastructure they are closing slowly but they will never equal it as it’s not financially viable we are bound by the uso which means we have to deliver where ever in the uk 6 days a week next day or as soon as possible
Not the way it’s going some parts of the business that deal with the public are already working sundays the union is resisting to an extent but when Amazon and other competitors deliver on sundays what option do they haveThat's where the gov't has to make a decision Bully.
Is the USO needed or more pertinently, worth the cost? Does it need to be 6 days? If abolished would the outcry have such a great political cost is probably the real question.
Take out Christmas and birthdays and the average individual won't use the service more than 5 times a year I guess but the outcry, the sentiment and nostalgia surrounding such events, would be deafening.
Tell the public Charles 2nd was a slave trader and it could be gone by next week!!!
That's the dilemna I suppose. Adapt & match, or better, the competition service or become extinct.Not the way it’s going some parts of the business that deal with the public are already working sundays the union is resisting to an extent but when Amazon and other competitors deliver on sundays what option do they have
TT, my old company was the first to intrduce next day delivery and when we firstThat's the dilemna I suppose. Adapt & match, or better, the competition service or become extinct.
I suppose that's how things have moved on Chips. Next day seems almost instant to our generation but those who have grown up with it see it as an imposition.TT, my old company was the first to intrduce next day delivery and when we first
decided to go that route we had a meeting to discuss the ins and outs. One bloke was insistant than if he wanted a delivery tomorrow then I would have ordered it yesterday. Daft as it sounds no one disagreed as delivery was free but the charge
for next day was to be £2.00. Next day was never more then 8% of deliveries.
These days I use Amazon and will not pay a delivery charge even if I have to wait.
I suppose that's how things have moved on Chips. Next day seems almost instant to our generation but those who have grown up with it see it as an imposition.
Today's consumer wants orders fulfilled virtually as they are placed. Just look at meal deliveries to your door within an hour of ordering and now groceries within 20 minutes.