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:1: That was a real good read VOTN dude, i have come across ISIS or ISIL supposed to be standing for an Egyptian queen Horus i think, not sure why but i can't help think all this IS group is made up bs by the US who could easily wipe them out, funny how now the US has been debating weather to go into Syria to tackle them without needing Assad permission? May well be used a sthe perfect excuse to get where and what they wish too, not saying this is the case mind you but would not surprise me dude,

We in the west have created more terrorists than there was before we started invading countries, Saddam although evil and ruled with an iron fist kept evil groups from ruling, now they am everywhere so you am damned if you do and damned if you don't imo
 
Clive that is bonkers that IS is made up and not respectful of the families and guys who have lost their lives because of. They are not made up anymore than Al Qaeda was. People would like to think so, because it helps remove there fear and anxiety however it isn't the case. There is enough evidence to prove it
 
ClivetheVillan - 25/11/2014 20:33

i can't help think all this IS group is made up bs by the US who could easily wipe them out, funny how now the US has been debating weather to go into Syria to tackle them without needing Assad permission? May well be used a sthe perfect excuse to get where and what they wish too, not saying this is the case mind you but would not surprise me dude,

We in the west have created more terrorists than there was before
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It's certainly convenient that this new threat has emerged, a perfect excuse for the western devils to invade and steal all of their resources, it wouldn't be the first time agent provocateurs have been used by the good ol US of A, even if it is just through training and funding as it was with the CIA and Al Qaeda.

Question everything.


 
Juan Mourep - 26/11/2014 01:30

ClivetheVillan - 25/11/2014 20:33

i can't help think all this IS group is made up bs by the US who could easily wipe them out, funny how now the US has been debating weather to go into Syria to tackle them without needing Assad permission? May well be used a sthe perfect excuse to get where and what they wish too, not saying this is the case mind you but would not surprise me dude,

We in the west have created more terrorists than there was before
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It's certainly convenient that this new threat has emerged, a perfect excuse for the western devils to invade and steal all of their resources, it wouldn't be the first time agent provocateurs have been used by the good ol US of A, even if it is just through training and funding as it was with the CIA and Al Qaeda.

Question everything.
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:1: why can'ti put it like that :19: too right dude, nothing surprises me anymore tbh not after Iraq war and all that, seems since then the US and us have stepped up getting our noses in other countries for our own purposes, good point about the funding for IS, defo helps them get where and what they want too, ay it a shame for the ordinary people caught up in this, berzerk murderers trained and allowed to run free killing at will, feckin heartbreaking they ay got anything either have they the Iraqi people then after we go over and destroy the bit they had then this IS appear :21:
 
I've just read the article. It offers no answers, just one guys take on the situation, with a bit of history thrown in.

I don't see how ISIS or whatever you want to call it can be compared to the bombing of Hiroshima etc. If my history serves me correctly, they were dropped only to bring a swifter end to the war in the far east. The trouble in Ukraine is small change compared to the indiscriminate murdering of innocent people just because they are not muslim and reject the 'offer' to become muslim.

ISIS is an evil that moderate muslims detest and are afraid of, and it's not just the muslims. Others flee because they fancy keeping their heads where they belong...... on the shoulders.

I could go on, but feel it best to end there............

 
The bombing in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the very definition of terrorism, they were attrocities committed in order to terrorise the enemy into submition. That's what terrorism actually means. And of course, there are far more conflicts in the world that can be brought up but the Ukrainian conflict has particular baring because the UN principle of self determination is being ignored just because it doesn't fit the agenda of the political west. Besides, I'd say that With the political games being played in Ukraine and the fact that Ukraine is in Europe, it has a much greater chance of being a major conflict involving the UK than anything in the MIddle East, to the extent that, if Things og badly wrong, it could be the start of WWIII.


I know you have a strong bias against Islam (I'm not judging it, just observing it) but that shouldn't blind you to the realities of everything else going on in the world.

 
Forgive me, but I was under the impression that being in the middle of a world war and both countries officially engaged in a state of war, so bombing to bring to an end a war, could not be claimed as 'terrorism'. Perhaps I am wrong.

As far as Ukraine is concerned, I believe 'the west' has learned it lesson and does not want to get involved with Russia apart from the placement of restrictions..... only time will tell.

I don't have a bias against islam VOTN, (I'm going back to Indonesia the middle of next month, the main religion there is Islam). What I do have a bias against is the extreme factors within islam who do not respect the rights of people to follow any religion they choose, as I and the majority of normal people do.

So, I fell, even though I do use reading glasses, my sight does not encumber my opinion on things going on in the world.

 
Seriously, the things you post on here can not be understood as anything other than a bias against Islam. I was rather surprised to read that you are heading back out there.
 
Nothing wrong having bias against Islam. Its not being against people or country - yet against a religion. Its no different to being bias against the Catholic religion and it's teachings - again you would not be bias against the people or the places where we see Catholic majority - yet it is just the religion itself.

And I suppose you could consider what Hilter's plans were, as being not to different of that of Islamic state.

Is Islam dangerous? Yes it is - the religion is against integration.
 
Hiroshima and Nagaski were need to bring an end to the 2nd world war. Germany has surrendered and the war in Europe has been over for nearly 3 months. Japan would not surrender and it was needed to bring an end to the war. Japan should have surrendered after Hiroshima but they didn't. Actually Japan shouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbour which was really the act of terrorism.

People that say IS is created by the US/UK should say that to the families of the aid workers who have been beheaded by them. Wake up. These people hate the Western and its way of life. This is real and not a plan created to invade.
 
Green Tea - 27/11/2014 18:09

Nothing wrong having bias against Islam. Its not being against people or country - yet against a religion. Its no different to being bias against the Catholic religion and it's teachings - again you would not be bias against the people or the places where we see Catholic majority - yet it is just the religion itself.

And I suppose you could consider what Hilter's plans were, as being not to different of that of Islamic state.

Is Islam dangerous? Yes it is - the religion is against integration.
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I agree with a lot of what you say Green Tea. Though I don't feel main stream Islam is dangerous. Only the extremist ideals and interpretation of Islam is dangerous.

As I said in my earlier post, I am returning to Indonesia where @ 85% of the population there is muslim, yet I do not fear going there as they are mainstream and very middle of the road..... no problem.




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blackwood_villa - 27/11/2014 11:27


People that say IS is created by the US/UK should say that to the families of the aid workers who have been beheaded by them. Wake up. These people hate the Western and its way of life. This is real and not a plan created to invade.
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Thank you blackwood. That has summed up what I wanted to put, though more eloquently. I was rather peeved when I read some responses I decided not to reply as it would have been me, lashing out, which wasn't appropriate. I get very tense when posts claim that the terrorists extremists of such as IS are in some way a propaganda of the west. That is so because of family being caught up in their past atrocities
 
The people that believe in the conspiracy theories are just sheep who are trying to be clever by"thinking outside the box" when in truth they are just deluded and stupid and in most cases really uneducated. Human natures means people in all walks of life are susceptible to some form of corruption but some people need a massive dose of reality.
 
blackwood_villa - 27/11/2014 12:27

Hiroshima and Nagaski were need to bring an end to the 2nd world war. Germany has surrendered and the war in Europe has been over for nearly 3 months. Japan would not surrender and it was needed to bring an end to the war. Japan should have surrendered after Hiroshima but they didn't. Actually Japan shouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbour which was really the act of terrorism.

People that say IS is created by the US/UK should say that to the families of the aid workers who have been beheaded by them. Wake up. These people hate the Western and its way of life. This is real and not a plan created to invade.
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Actually the Pearl habour attack was not an act of terrorism as it was never intended to terrorise a country, it was an attack on a military target intended to wipe out the US's military capability in the Pacific.

I wish people would learn what terrorism means, it has nothing to do with ligitimacy and everything to do with influence by instilling fear in the general population.
 
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