5 Available Free Agent Managers

AdebolaCornflakes said:
Go and watch some non-league football Wolfie. I try to get to a few local games during the season on international break weekends etc. and it is a good palate cleanser.
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I watch my local side when I can (Glassboys for the win!) and really enjoy it. Been going for nearly 45 years.

Everything is absolute basics and totally different to Forest or any sort of ‘professional football. Atmosphere is totally different too.
 
LynxRed said:
@Thewolf/jimmygordon you've made up a toxic narrative in your own head, just to be unhappy about. That's on you chap. Pretty much everyone who is unhappy with our managerial situation acknowledges that best case scenario is Ange wins games and we do well under him, and everyone would be happy with that. You're making out it's a "toxic" campaign against Ange just because we don't like him and it's unjustified and unfair. We're being spoiled brats because we don't like the perfectly capable manager who we've got.

Nobody wants Ange to leave the club purely because of who he is, or what his name is, or where he was before. The people who are unhappy with him, were unhappy with the original appointment, and are unhappy with current results have been unhappy based purely on football reasons. He hasn't done anything to disabuse those notions that he isn't the right man for the job. In fact, he's done so badly he's absolutely reinforced those initial concerns and then some.

I've yet to see you present a coherent footballing argument as to why you think Ange Postecoglou deserves more time and will turn results around at Nottingham Forest. I don't want "because 7 games isn't long enough". That's not a footballing reason to justify his appointment or position. In Premier League terms, with his Premier League record, what are the reasons for having Ange Postecoglou as manager? Where in his past achievements do we have a valid reason to believe he can turn around a Premier League team in Premier League fixtures given time to do so?

This is not on the fans. The fans didn't make this appointment, but they can see the colossal balls up that has been made. Why would we, as fans who want the best for our club, sit silently and passively watching a manager who is so clearly wrong for the club take us to relegation? Is that your idea of being a fan? I'm generally a supportive fan who gives more benefit of the doubt than many, but I can't find any reason or justification for it in this scenario.
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Ive not suggested he stays or defended him

Ive written him off. We will need to sack him though as he wont walk and I 100 per cent dont blame him for not walking.

As ive said above. The entitlement in our fanbase I hate to see is the assumption that good managers at other EPL clubs will ditch those jobs for us immediately we dangle the carrot (not withstanding paying compensation)

And that the names we are being linked with apart from and including some of the current EPL ones are already getting slated

Alongside several of the signings weve made being written off and not good enough already

All 3 of those points are nothing to do with the quality or lack of quality of ange as a manager

And all to do with a fanbase arrogant attitude I dont enjoy being part of or associated with

Others outside the club have called it entitled and embarrassing

I agree sadly

Ps i used to complain about this creeping in long before ange as well when we started thinking we should expect to beat lesser teams at home and no longer treating every game like a cup final type challenge to win
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
Ive not suggested he stays or defended him

Ive written him off. We will need to sack him though as he wont walk and I 100 per cent dont blame him for not walking.

As ive said above. The entitlement in our fanbase I hate to see is the assumption that good managers at other EPL clubs will ditch those jobs for us immediately we dangle the carrot (not withstanding paying compensation)

And that the names we are being linked with apart from and including some of the current EPL ones are already getting slated

Alongside several of the signings weve made being written off already

All 3 of those points are nothing to do with the quality or lack of quality of ange as a manager

And all to do with a fanbase arrogant attitude I dont enjoy being part of or associated with

Others outside the club have called it entitled and embarrassing

I agree sadly
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To be fair, the people outside the club aren't talking about fans slagging off their players, or prospective managers, but fans booing Ange, which is perfectly reasonable behaviour imo.

Sutton can fuck off anyway that guy has the absolute worst opinions. He's two steps away from being Blackgold.
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
Ps i used to complain about this creeping in long before ange as well when we started thinking we should expect to beat lesser teams at home and no longer treating every game like a cup final type challenge to win
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And you've got the brass neck to state this, whilst also being the same person who said this;

Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
The thing is whichever new manager we appoint (if we need to) we arent getting relegated and they will be replaced soon enough if they dont deliver the improvement and success EM will want from them

Weve actually ALREADY got to the stage where we can turn our nose up at a manager who just won the Europa League and qualified for the Champions League because hes nowhere good enough for us

And also we seem to be at the stage where Mourinho isnt good enough for us either

Its time to realise how far we have come in such a short time

Courtesy of EM who will decide the next move in the best interests of Nottingham Forest Football Club

And wont just sit back and watch all his hard work and investment fall away

Lets also remember who got MGW to change his mind about leaving

Arguably the most important job for any of our staff this season

It wasnt Nuno or Edu
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I think you might just be the most hypocritical poster on the whole of the Vital network. No doubt that will be the fault of Forest fans too.
 
I Love Being a Fan.

I can dole out "Loads of criticism"

I don't have to come up with or defend anything to anybody.
"No actual realistic solutions"

This is every fans privilege!
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
And?

Marinakis making a move with another manager will happen if and when needed

Lets hope the fanbase gets fully behind the next manager from day one
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You really don't see any conflict or hypocrisy between those two direct quotes from yourself? Also goes against your statements of people "turning their nose up" at managers etc.

Absolute hypocrite.
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
And?

Marinakis making a move with another manager will happen if and when needed

Lets hope the fanbase gets fully behind the next manager from day one
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Given the fixtures Ange had, Arsenal aside - it's hard to get behind a manager whose team are 0-2 at Swansea - in a cup that's perfect for us to use the squad (build fitness & a sense of team) but then capitulates to lose 3-2.

Betis - good for 30 mins, after falling behind but woeful second half - however, a draw looked a good result.

Draw away at Burnley - after being 0-1 up in 2 mins, a game that could have gone either way.

Sunderland at home - shite, had some chances late on.

FCM - never looked capable of winning, ditto Newcastle.


Disorganised, indisciplined, defensively weak & subs are reactive rather than pro-active. 15 goals conceded in 7 games!

I mentioned this before, that Ange does not seem to be an active coach in game, directing players but just seems to let them get on with it.

All managers need time, I do get that, but I just can't see (from what I've seen so far) how he will turn this around.

There is a saying, that if something is not broke - then don't fix it and whilst there may be some upset in the way Nuno was sacked (that he engineered) - this is a significantly better squad, nothwithstanding some injuries.

Ripping it up & changing our playing style wasn't needed.
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
And?

Marinakis making a move with another manager will happen if and when needed

Lets hope the fanbase gets fully behind the next manager from day one
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I don't think it's too much to ask for the next manager to not concede two goals per game, and to actually win a match.

It would not have taken very much for Postecoglou to be supported and given more time. In fact, it has taken quite a lot for him not to be.

Fans don't have a positive record for Postecoglou to look back on to say "yeah, it will be fine".

Fans are rightfully asking what the endgame is with Postecoglou. His whole schtick is all out attack, but to make that work properly you are going to seen one of the best squads in the league, and he is never going to have that here.
 
weejockmcplop said:
To be fair, the people outside the club aren't talking about fans slagging off their players, or prospective managers, but fans booing Ange, which is perfectly reasonable behaviour imo.

Sutton can fuck off anyway that guy has the absolute worst opinions. He's two steps away from being Blackgold.
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Isn't Chris Sutton a Forest fan? - not that it matters.
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
And?

Marinakis making a move with another manager will happen if and when needed

Lets hope the fanbase gets fully behind the next manager from day one
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Do you accept that the overwhelming majority of Forest fans did not want Postecoglue before he got the Forest job?
Do you accept it's not the fans fault that Postecoglue is inept?
Do you accept that we have gone backwards since his appointment?
Do you accept that he was never the right man for the job?
 
PsychoTheLegend said:
Do you accept that the overwhelming majority of Forest fans did not want Postecoglue before he got the Forest job?
Do you accept it's not the fans fault that Postecoglue is inept?
Do you accept that we have gone backwards since his appointment?
Do you accept that he was never the right man for the job?
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Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes

None of which are my points though

I cant keep explaining though
 
Pope John XXIII said:
I don't think it's too much to ask for the next manager to not concede two goals per game, and to actually win a match.

It would not have taken very much for Postecoglou to be supported and given more time. In fact, it has taken quite a lot for him not to be.

Fans don't have a positive record for Postecoglou to look back on to say "yeah, it will be fine".

Fans are rightfully asking what the endgame is with Postecoglou. His whole schtick is all out attack, but to make that work properly you are going to seen one of the best squads in the league, and he is never going to have that here.
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Also not sure how much out and out attack we’ve even seen? IMO we’ve broadly just looked toothless going forwards. If I was expecting anything under this guy, it was to see some goals or flair, however reckless. Have we even had that, across 630 minutes of game time, aside from 30 against Betis?

Feels like it’s been all the negatives of Ange, and god there are a lot of those, with none of the supposed positives.
 
Peter Baxendale Thomas said:
Also not sure how much out and out attack we’ve even seen? IMO we’ve broadly just looked toothless going forwards. If I was expecting anything under this guy, it was to see some goals or flair, however reckless. Have we even had that, across 630 minutes of game time, aside from 30 against Betis?

Feels like it’s been all the negatives of Ange, and god there are a lot of those, with none of the supposed positives.
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In his defence he's a coach though isn't he? Not an 80 million pound striker that's needed at this level.
 
jbacsta said:
In his defence he's a coach though isn't he? Not an 80 million pound striker that's needed at this level.
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? It’s about the system not a single player. We’ve spent over a hundred million on attacking talent this window. We also already have a striker who hit 20 goals last season.

You’re telling me we sign a big name striker and this suddenly turns around?

The offensive talent we have on the books are so much better than what they’re showing. But nobody seems to have any idea what they’re supposed to be doing and Ange picks the team like he’s pulling names out of a hat.
 
Our Kids Dad said:
7 May 2023 — Chris Sutton has told BBC Sport that he was a Nottingham Forest fan as a boy ....

Knew I'd read it somewhere & fairly certain it came up in an interview last year
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Our Kids Dad said:
7 May 2023 — Chris Sutton has told BBC Sport that he was a Nottingham Forest fan as a boy ....

Knew I'd read it somewhere & fairly certain it came up in an interview last year
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born in Nottingham, brought up in Nottingham and brought his own young family up in East Leake before moving to Norfolk on signing for Norwich.
 
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