I think it is safe to say this one has been argued many, many times. Adding temporary seating would simply decrease the playing budget. It would take quite some time to make the money back that it would cost, too.
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I think it is safe to say this one has been argued many, many times. Adding temporary seating would simply decrease the playing budget. It would take quite some time to make the money back that it would cost, too.
nlondonimp
Vital Champions League
yes, you have just outlined one side of that two sided debate. a half decent season and i expect the temporary seats discussion again next summer...
buckielugger
Vital 1st Team Regular
Might as well argue it again though!
For example, Newport put up a temporary stand for one of their big FA Cup ties I think.
You would have to assume they did that to make extra money, else why bother.
So...does that not imply that something of that nature could be erected in a short time and make some extra revenue?
devonexlondonimp
Vital 1st Team Regular
No business can grow effectively by increasing their overheads via wages hikes without addressing the issue of capital investment for long term growth.
non footballing revenues must increase.
just check the numbers on our p/l it is wages that are growing.....losses £1.09 million at June 2018.
check last paragrapgh CN knows the score.
https://www.eastmidlandsbusinesslink.co.uk/mag/finance/lincoln-city-fc-report-loss-of-1m/
non footballing revenues must increase.
just check the numbers on our p/l it is wages that are growing.....losses £1.09 million at June 2018.
check last paragrapgh CN knows the score.
https://www.eastmidlandsbusinesslink.co.uk/mag/finance/lincoln-city-fc-report-loss-of-1m/
I will say this first. I am not against making Sincil Bank temporarily bigger, but what I am against is such a big amount of money being risked during the first year back in League One.
The money has rightly been kept as part of the playing budget as the Football Club look to establish themselves in League One.
That doesn't mean that options to temporarily increase the capacity at Sincil Bank aren't being looked at, though. Just not this season.
buckielugger
Vital 1st Team Regular
As an example cost, a company that hires out temporary stands charges £1800 for a week for a 130 seater stand. So about £14 per seat.
Doubtless a better deal available for a 40 week hire period.
That's one I just found on goggle anyway.
Plenty of such alternatives available.
There might even be contacts via SRP as they must get involved in provision of facilities at events with temporary stands.
It doesn't at all have to be something that takes money away from the playing budget but instead adds to it.
Extra people means extra catering revenue etc.
It could be looked at for when the likes of Sunderland and Portsmouth roll up with their huge followings.
Doubtless a better deal available for a 40 week hire period.
That's one I just found on goggle anyway.
Plenty of such alternatives available.
There might even be contacts via SRP as they must get involved in provision of facilities at events with temporary stands.
It doesn't at all have to be something that takes money away from the playing budget but instead adds to it.
Extra people means extra catering revenue etc.
It could be looked at for when the likes of Sunderland and Portsmouth roll up with their huge followings.
buckielugger
Vital 1st Team Regular
And how long do you think it would take to make the money back?
The Electric Banana
Vital Football Hero
Where are you going site it, so that it has safe access and egress that meets building controls requirements?
Curious of HD3
A one day hire of temporary seating, which you can guarantee selling out may make sense. 365 days hire only to be used a handful of times is a different prospect.
Cost
1800 x 52= 93600
Income
130 x 24 = 3120
less vat
130 x 4 = 520
Income per match 2600
Total matches to earn cost 36
Why do not you volunteer to install it yourself and just take all the profits yourself.
Cost
1800 x 52= 93600
Income
130 x 24 = 3120
less vat
130 x 4 = 520
Income per match 2600
Total matches to earn cost 36
Why do not you volunteer to install it yourself and just take all the profits yourself.
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Mattytindraws
Vital Reserves Team
On the temporary seating, I believe one of the ‘issues’ to be the time it currently takes to clear the ground/area in the event of an emergency is right on the acceptable limit. Therefore, as already alluded too, it really may not just be case of sticking a temporary stand up....there could need to be other changes made in tandem to ensure the extra people could be evacuated.
nlondonimp
Vital Champions League
didn't we have some season tickets for sale during the season last year? and at christmas?
looks to me like demand has gone up another notch or two.
did anyone ever doubt it?
nlondonimp
Vital Champions League
newport have done it a couple of times. last time they put up two temporary stands.
they must have none of the access issues that we apparently have at our ground.
surprises me, as we must be the only L1 club with a main stand that only covers a third of the length of the pitch. how do other clubs in tight urban areas manage. anyone been to gillingham?
nlondonimp
Vital Champions League
the selenity has almost more aisles than seats, and a huge area behind it. also, wouldn't the pitch be the ideal place to evacuate to? i would say there would be more issues on the coop side than the selenity side.
buckielugger
Vital 1st Team Regular
Which is why I alluded to games when large (very large) away followings could be coming. Might be a chance to house a few hundred more of them at full price.
If there was a thought that a temporary stand could be filled for the whole season, then presumably buying one becomes better value.
Whether there is the space is another issue.
I would hope though that the club have at least explored what could be done.
But if such stands were always a loss maker, then no one would ever make use of them. So there must be circumstances where venues gain financially from having them (as Newport did). No idea if any such circumstances could exist for our situation, but they just might.
clive ford
Vital Squad Member
Many of us in the Senility need two sticks to aid us to our seats so we need a wide access. If the aisles are narrowed to allow extra seating I fear a one way system would have to be instigated causing all sorts of problems for frequent urinators, possible installation of extra drainage, and the likelihood of verbal abuse being hurled, "Get out of my way you cad" and "Why can't you have a number one at 2.58 you buffoon" I hope things stay as they are!
The-slippery-greek
Vital Reserves Team
The only time i had to evacuate sinny bank was when we were 6 nil down at home to Barnet.
