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2019-2020 Injuries

Real Deal said:
Looking through his injury list he has had some serious time off. By the time he is back from this injury it could be near 400 days off injured.
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It's not just the the time off. It's also the impact the injuries have had on his body that are now affecting his performances on the pitch. To my eye he's not the same player he was two or three seasons ago.
 
Real Deal said:
Looking through his injury list he has had some serious time off. By the time he is back from this injury it could be near 400 days off injured.
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Although the update says he'll be back around April, I have once again been told his season is unquestionably over; the recuperation time back to full fitness and mobility after the Avulsion repair op he's having is more like 4 (at very best) to 6 months.

And this injury really does and can affect touch and control and the ability to sprint.
 
Gary Onedaysoon said:
I supposed an optimistic view is that we've scarificed just over 4 months of this season to have him for a full season next year.
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Agreed. We're fcuked this season anyway, so he might as well have a long rest and also miss any international games and have a long preseason and conditioning (as he will need it) and then we can hope he might be able to perhaps get back to his best.

By the way, I'm told he's most likely to have the Op in the US.
 
Spursex said:
Although the update says he'll be back around April, I have once again been told his season is unquestionably over; the recuperation time back to full fitness and mobility after the Avulsion repair op he's having is more like 4 (at very best) to 6 months.

And this injury really does and can affect touch and control and the ability to sprint.
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I'm training a Rugby lad of 17 at the moment. Upper body SC. He tore his Biceps Femoris last Autumn. Grade 3. Not torn from the bone, but a nasty tear.

His Physio reckons another 3-4 months before it's fully healed.

6-8 months out.

Fingers crossed that isn't the case for Harry.
 
I think we should be signing a top striker, a replacement for Kane. Not a second fiddle stop gap. We should be aiming higher than surviving until Kane comes back.
 
Yes, we do need another top striker although not necessarily one who is a direct replacement for Kane. But where do you get one in January? And in the meantime we're relying on Son and Moura to carry us in three competitions for the rest of the season. What happens if Son gets injured? And even if they survive the season unscathed, what condition will be they be in for the start of next season with the limited breaks the players get these days?
 
Gary Onedaysoon said:
Yes, we do need another top striker although not necessarily one who is a direct replacement for Kane. But where do you get one in January? And in the meantime we're relying on Son and Moura to carry us in three competitions for the rest of the season. What happens if Son gets injured? And even if they survive the season unscathed, what condition will be they be in for the start of next season with the limited breaks the players get these days?
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We can ill afford another act of stupidity on Son's part. It's important now we keep our discipline, cos with our injury record another string of suspensions would be very damaging indeed.
 
Gary Onedaysoon said:
The Spurs website is still reporting Ndombele's injury as his hip rather than the recurring groin injury.
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It will be unquestionably related; it's exactly what happens when you push yourself before your groin injury is 100%. It was a stupid decision to rush him, utterly stupid.
 
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Harry Kane
Harry Kane

Reason

Thigh Injury

Further Detail

Jan 09: "The decision to undergo surgery is not expected to impact the timeframe, with the expectation that he will return to training in April."

Potential Return

25/04/2020

Condition

None

Status

Ruled Out
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Moussa Sissoko

Reason

Knee Injury

Further Detail

Jan 08: "Our medical staff will monitor his recovery before Moussa commences rehab with a view to returning to training in early April."

Potential Return

25/04/2020

Condition

None

Status

Ruled Out
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Ben Davies

Reason

Ankle/Foot Injury

Further Detail

Nov 26: "Following ongoing examination and assessment, we can confirm that Ben sustained ligament damage to his left ankle."

Potential Return

22/01/2020

Condition

None

Status

Ruled Out
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Hugo Lloris

Reason

Arm/Elbow Injury

Further Detail

Dec 20: "It's difficult to set up a date, I would say February. I probably would not be far from it and February goes from the 1st to the 29th this year."

Potential Return

22/01/2020

Condition

None

Status

Ruled Out
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Player

Tanguy Ndombele

Reason

Groin/Hip/Pelvic Injury

Further Detail

Jan 03: "When I arrived he was injured and now 6/7 weeks after I arrived he is injured again. So no continuity in his development, he needs minutes, he needs to be playing."

Potential Return

No Return Date

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Status

Ruled Out
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I’m a bit confused now . The title of this thread was , I thought , the injuries in this calendar year . It now may turn out to be the NUMBER of injuries we will have sustained this season .!
 
Good to see the return dates of 22-Jan for both Hugo and Davies. Don't recall seeing them before. Just need a date to slot in for Ndombele.

I'm also surprised that the press haven't run any article and photos of Hugo training. With Jose having less emphasis on this tippy tappy rubbish from his GK's, I think Hugo will enjoy the new setup. He can focus on what he's best at rather than trying to be an Ederson or Allison.
 
I've got a groin injury ( athletic pubalgia the doc calls it!) that's been dogging me for around 4-5 months, despite doing everything the sports injury specialist has told me to do and put me through; - I only do gym, play golf, Table Tennis and tennis in the summer now but my mobility and ability movement still hasn't recovered and now I'm picking up other niggles, so saw the consultant today - as only a surgeon ever does he's recommending surgery to sort it. Said I can't be active after for around 6-12 weeks and then tried to scare me (which it did ) and said after all this of doing rehab and it keeps reoccurring (so now have an abductor tear as well) that if I didn't have it done, I either give up sports or the other injuries will just get worse.

Not that I'm the same, but some days I think I'm 100% and others I just know it doesn't feel the same and next I know, more pain, less mobility and the cycle starts again.

Believe me, I feel sorry for N'dombele, but I bet he also will end up in surgery, it's such an infuriating, frustrating injury.
 
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Spursex said:
I've got a groin injury ( athletic pubalgia the doc calls it!) that's been dogging me for around 4-5 months, despite doing everything the sports injury specialist has told me to do and put me through; - I only do gym, play golf, Table Tennis and tennis in the summer now but my mobility and ability movement still hasn't recovered and now I'm picking up other niggles, so saw the consultant today - as only a surgeon ever does he's recommending surgery to sort it. Said I can't be active after for around 6-12 weeks and then tried to scare me (which it did ) and said after all this of doing rehab and it keeps reoccurring (so now have an abductor tear as well) that if I didn't have it done, I either give up sports or the other injuries will just get worse.

Not that I'm the same, but some days I think I'm 100% and others I just know it doesn't feel the same and next I know, more pain, less mobility and the cycle starts again.

Believe me, I feel sorry for N'dombele, but I bet he also will end up in surgery, it's such an infuriating, frustrating injury.
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Why don't they just take the decision and be done with it. It seems inevitable anyway.
 
Gary Onedaysoon said:
Why don't they just take the decision and be done with it. It seems inevitable anyway.
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because sometimes you can manage it with cortisone shots as we did with Trippier, Walker and Eriksen - but all that really does is help combat the pain and I am pretty certain that more than 3 shots a year is a big no-no, and of course the more you have in an injury mostly the efficiency of the steroid decrease rapidly, and then there is the possibility that once the scar tissue has stopped forming, that the injury can and will self-repair (at least allow you to play without pain) .

So I'm guessing but I suspect in the beginning we were taking a wait and see approach.
 
Leading surgeon forecasts Harry Kane Euro 2020 absence

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England captain Harry Kane is unlikely to be fit for Euro 2020, a leading orthopaedic surgeon has said.

Kane went under the knife on Saturday to repair a ruptured tendon in his left hamstring and his club Tottenham have said they expect him to resume training in April.

However, his participation at this summer's tournament was plunged into doubt earlier this week when Spurs boss Jose Mourinho raised the possibility of Kane not being fit until next season.

And now Chris Wilson, one of the United Kingdom's prominent doctors in the procedure, says he thinks it is more likely to be six months before Kane could play again.

"I would expect it to be six months before he could return to action," Dr Wilson, who has performed the same operation 75 times, told the PA news agency.

"There is a big range of opinion because it is such an uncommon procedure and some surgeons may say quicker.

"If the repair was good and sound, the first six weeks he will be nursing the repair and doing very little.

"Six to 12 weeks, providing everything was OK, he will be doing basic strengthening exercises.

"At three months you would start a normal hamstring rehabilitation that you would do if you got a tear in the middle of the muscle.

"If I was talking to a top-level footballer I would want to manage their expectations and say I wouldn't anticipate them being fit and playing normally in a game for six months following the surgery.

"If it was me I would say aim for getting fit for pre-season training. I am aware in Harry Kane's case they have been saying April or May - I have to say I would be very surprised."

Kane has a history of defying medical opinion to return quickly from a string of ankle ligament injuries.

Dr Wilson, who is the surgeon for Championship sides Cardiff and Swansea and has operated on Olympic athletes, has urged caution with Kane's recovery, even if he is feeling good.

"There is a risk of recurrence," he said. "When you do a hamstring repair, you'll tell the athlete there is a risk of re-rupture.

"Coming back too early increases the risk of re-rupture. There is no getting around that.

"Most of the surgeons will say it will take at least three months before he is doing some normal running and training.

"He may defy expectations. If it was me, I would say forget playing before six months, no matter how good you feel.
 
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Moussa Sissoko
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Medial Collateral Ligament injuryEarly April

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Harry Kane
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HamstringEarly April

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Ben Davies
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Hugo Lloris
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Elbow injuryBack in training

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Player
Harry Kane

Harry Kane
Reason

Thigh Injury

Further Detail

Jan 09: "The decision to undergo surgery is not expected to impact the timeframe, with the expectation that he will return to training in April."

Potential Return

25/04/2020

Condition

None

Status

Ruled Out
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Player

Moussa Sissoko

Reason

Knee Injury

Further Detail

Jan 17: "Travelled to France with medical team to undergo early stages of rehab."

Potential Return

25/04/2020

Condition

None

Status

Ruled Out
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Player

Ben Davies

Reason

Ankle/Foot Injury

Further Detail

Jan 17: "Continuing late stages of rehab."

Potential Return

02/02/2020

Condition

None

Status

Ruled Out
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Player

Harry Winks

Reason

Ankle/Foot Injury

Further Detail

Ankle Injury

Potential Return

25/01/2020

Condition

Late Fitness Test

Status

25%
 
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