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20/21 Match thread - Tottenham Hotspur vs Manchester United - PL

Result?

  • Win

    Votes: 5 41.7%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lose

    Votes: 7 58.3%

  • Total voters
    12
  • Poll closed .
Are there any managers in the prem that Jose can say he has outwitted this season .

OGS has a thing to prove , having taken Jose’s disunited United team and turned them around .....the crap talk ... ,that is all just politics.
The fact that MacTominays hand slapped into Sons face is irrelevant. It was a foul .
It wasn’t a natural hand movement . It is against the laws of the game .
It’s like punching somebody , a soft punch is no less a punch than a forceful one . .
I have long given up waiting for and watching the post match interviews .
Sky have their own agenda and never ask the questions that concern the match , they only want the controversy.
I bet nobody asked a question about Pogba elbowing Aurier and then bringing up Martin Tyler’s comment that it was Auriers fault that he got hurt because he was so short , !
Did anyone pick up on Pogba going down with a HAND injury and having to be told by the ref that the game was going to go on regardless .
Anyone pick up on when Aurier put the ball out so that a United player could get attention , when Shaw took the resultant throw , he threw the ball to a Cavani who passed the ball weakly in Lloris’s direction which enabled them to press Lloris on the edge of the area .
The game itself panned out exactly as most of us thought , we tried a bit in the first half , but were outplayed in the second , by a coach with better tactical nous than the bloke we have .
When we went forward and stretched them in the first half , we caused them problems .

Those problems melted away in the second . We put everything into stopping Rashford , so he took him off and we had no idea how to look after the different running of Greenwood .
The same thing will happen in the cup final . We will stop Aguero but the Foden will come on and take us apart .,

Jose is being out thought in nearly every game . His tactics are so easy to counter . His tinkering at the back is costing us dear .
Did he explain why Sanchez had been in the side for a while but suddenly not even in the squad .
Did he explain his thoughts that a Dier /Rodon pairing was the best on the day , when I don’t think they have played together before .

I’ve had enough . He is getting me worked up . He has to go
 
Are there any managers in the prem that Jose can say he has outwitted this season .

OGS has a thing to prove , having taken Jose’s disunited United team and turned them around .....the crap talk ... ,that is all just politics.
The fact that MacTominays hand slapped into Sons face is irrelevant. It was a foul .
It wasn’t a natural hand movement . It is against the laws of the game .
It’s like punching somebody , a soft punch is no less a punch than a forceful one . .
I have long given up waiting for and watching the post match interviews .
Sky have their own agenda and never ask the questions that concern the match , they only want the controversy.
I bet nobody asked a question about Pogba elbowing Aurier and then bringing up Martin Tyler’s comment that it was Auriers fault that he got hurt because he was so short , !
Did anyone pick up on Pogba going down with a HAND injury and having to be told by the ref that the game was going to go on regardless .
Anyone pick up on when Aurier put the ball out so that a United player could get attention , when Shaw took the resultant throw , he threw the ball to a Cavani who passed the ball weakly in Lloris’s direction which enabled them to press Lloris on the edge of the area .
The game itself panned out exactly as most of us thought , we tried a bit in the first half , but were outplayed in the second , by a coach with better tactical nous than the bloke we have .
When we went forward and stretched them in the first half , we caused them problems .

Those problems melted away in the second . We put everything into stopping Rashford , so he took him off and we had no idea how to look after the different running of Greenwood .
The same thing will happen in the cup final . We will stop Aguero but the Foden will come on and take us apart .,

Jose is being out thought in nearly every game . His tactics are so easy to counter . His tinkering at the back is costing us dear .
Did he explain why Sanchez had been in the side for a while but suddenly not even in the squad .
Did he explain his thoughts that a Dier /Rodon pairing was the best on the day , when I don’t think they have played together before .

I’ve had enough . He is getting me worked up . He has to go
Very good post there Walt, words n mouth came to mind, though regards the 2nd half, we showed absolutely no battle or willing, every Tom, Dick n Abdul knows MU up there game in the 2nd half, did we? I ask, It didn't look like it to me, it seems all went to script.
 
What Ole said lacked class and Jose taught the petulent whiner a lesson in respect. What's so ridiculous about it is McTwatinay DID whip Sonny in the face fairly hard so Ole wasn't only a ****, he was wrong in his portrayal of the incident.

The fact is, Pogba and McTwatinay could have seen red but had the Man Utd luck on their side.


Sonny was barely touched and fell to the floor like he was punched. He was trying to pull mctominys shirt and mctominy was just feeling where he was . I hate that we have become a team that throw themselves about and try to get the opposition booked
We are over hyped, lazy, weak mentality with a very negative and dated manager at the helm.

Agree with all of that
 
Sonny was barely touched and fell to the floor like he was punched. He was trying to pull mctominys shirt and mctominy was just feeling where he was . I hate that we have become a team that throw themselves about and try to get the opposition booked


Agree with all of that
I think he was hit in the face and it was a free kick. McTominay clearly flicks his hand onto his face.

However, it was also a complete overreaction by Son. But it's that overreaction that draws the attention of VAR and ultimately the referee. If Son had played on it would have been missed and an illegitimate goal awarded. So perhaps the fairest outcome would have been to disallow the goal and give Son a yellow for overreacting?

I thought it was quite ironic Ole criticising Son when earlier in the match Rashford went down holding his face when the camera clearly showed he hadn't been touched.

What really angered me about this was that the commentators Neville and Tyler, having acknowledged what the cameras had shown, for the rest of the match bracketed the two incidents and the elbow in the face by Pogba, as though they were similar incidents. They were nothing of the sort.

I had to turn off the commentary in the second half because the bias towards United was so blatant. Not so much the decisions but because they just talked about United non stop. It was though there was only one team playing. Well there was, in the second half, but you know what I mean. I don't know how Sky can allow such partial commentaries.
 
It is so funny, how we all see things differently, McTwatead put his hand in Sons face simple...foul.
Did Son overreact....probably, needs be I think, but it seems it is the only way these days to get the ref via VAR to see what has happened.

As for the "small man syndromed" Ole, with the aid of the bias Sky team, he was allowed to alienate fans against Son, if he was my son blah blah! for me its inciting trouble thus the Trolls.
I have to ask why didn't he get questioned on 3 minimum incidents involving his bunch of specialist cheats.....
Pogba's elbow in Aurier face/head, red card,....which also included a comment from Tyler I think saying "shame Aurier is so short" what the fcuk!

Rashford going down like a sniper had shot him, holding his boatrace, when every last man jack could see he got hit in the body.

Then there's Bruno I should be nominated for Oscars, going down like he has been pole-axed, only for the ref to tell him "get up no foul"

For me not being asked about just those 3 incidents sucks big time, cover up for MU because from what I have seen of them this is normal playground acting activity, well that's my opinion anyway.
 
It is so funny, how we all see things differently, McTwatead put his hand in Sons face simple...foul.
Did Son overreact....probably, needs be I think, but it seems it is the only way these days to get the ref via VAR to see what has happened.

As for the "small man syndromed" Ole, with the aid of the bias Sky team, he was allowed to alienate fans against Son, if he was my son blah blah! for me its inciting trouble thus the Trolls.
I have to ask why didn't he get questioned on 3 minimum incidents involving his bunch of specialist cheats.....
Pogba's elbow in Aurier face/head, red card,....which also included a comment from Tyler I think saying "shame Aurier is so short" what the fcuk!

Rashford going down like a sniper had shot him, holding his boatrace, when every last man jack could see he got hit in the body.

Then there's Bruno I should be nominated for Oscars, going down like he has been pole-axed, only for the ref to tell him "get up no foul"

For me not being asked about just those 3 incidents sucks big time, cover up for MU because from what I have seen of them this is normal playground acting activity, well that's my opinion anyway.

Cavani lashed out at Rodon which enraged our lad. That's a red card and he went on to score.
 
Cavani lashed out at Rodon which enraged our lad. That's a red card and he went on to score.
Thanks Nick that's another one, I forgot that, without watching over it again I know there are more incidents.

In Rugby their VAR ref person see's thing the Ref didn't and lets him know about it, thus no playacting shenanigans, which in turn can lead to red or sinbin cards.
 
Thanks Nick that's another one, I forgot that, without watching over it again I know there are more incidents.

In Rugby their VAR ref person see's thing the Ref didn't and lets him know about it, thus no playacting shenanigans, which in turn can lead to red or sinbin cards.

Cavani looked to punch Rodon in the back or ribs, not sure where it landed but it was a vicious swipe.
 
That CB pairing, in this match, against this opponent, with as much on the line.... Really really brings alot of things into question.

I know no coach on Earth that would do that at any level in a game of such importance. Unless A: It was self/squad sabatoge to throw the pts (gambling investigations ensue...); B: Sabotage to try and prove a "weak squad theory" to induce a higher Transfer investment; or C: He is really just a complete, utter, & total World Class Fucking Moron.

Just belies belief really.

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That CB pairing, in this match, against this opponent, with as much on the line.... Really really brings alot of things into question.

I know no coach on Earth that would do that at any level in a game of such importance. Unless A: It was self/squad sabatoge to throw the pts (gambling investigations ensue...); B: Sabotage to try and prove a "weak squad theory" to induce a higher Transfer investment; or C: He is really just a complete, utter, & total World Class Fucking Moron.

Just belies belief really.

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Rodon played well in the previous game and Sanchez didn't. Dier has more pace than Toby and jumping ability. Dier may have performed well in training and was fresh and raring to go. Dier is also a better long range passer , Sanchez struggles even short range.

I haven't got a problem with Jose picking who he did as CBs.
 
Rodon played well in the previous game and Sanchez didn't. Dier has more pace than Toby and jumping ability. Dier may have performed well in training and was fresh and raring to go. Dier is also a better long range passer , Sanchez struggles even short range.

I haven't got a problem with Jose picking who he did as CBs.

There's a reason that "All Star" teams give up a shit ton of goals.

And no, I'm not calling either of them AllStars.

It was one of the absolute most stupid coaching decisions I've ever seen in a Prem game in my life.

He's a blisteringly stupid man.

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There's a reason that "All Star" teams give up a shit ton of goals.

And no, I'm not calling either of them AllStars.

It was one of the absolute most stupid coaching decisions I've ever seen in a Prem game in my life.

He's a blisteringly stupid man.

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I wouldn't describe him as stupid at all and definitely not blisteringly.
 
Rodon played well in the previous game and Sanchez didn't. Dier has more pace than Toby and jumping ability. Dier may have performed well in training and was fresh and raring to go. Dier is also a better long range passer , Sanchez struggles even short range.

I haven't got a problem with Jose picking who he did as CBs.

Dier literally makes mistakes every game he plays. Any manager playing him is a moron.

At least Sanchez has good games. Playing Sanchez and Rodon would show a long term strategy.

Players like Doherty, Aurier, Dier, Sissoko shouldn't be getting any game time whatsoever.

I would have more respect for Jose for dropping the lot completely and playing the kids.
 
That CB pairing, in this match, against this opponent, with as much on the line.... Really really brings alot of things into question.

I know no coach on Earth that would do that at any level in a game of such importance. Unless A: It was self/squad sabatoge to throw the pts (gambling investigations ensue...); B: Sabotage to try and prove a "weak squad theory" to induce a higher Transfer investment; or C: He is really just a complete, utter, & total World Class Fucking Moron.

Just belies belief really.

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That a C for me mate, plus the C could invoke another word.
 
Dier literally makes mistakes every game he plays. Any manager playing him is a moron.

At least Sanchez has good games. Playing Sanchez and Rodon would show a long term strategy.

Players like Doherty, Aurier, Dier, Sissoko shouldn't be getting any game time whatsoever.

I would have more respect for Jose for dropping the lot completely and playing the kids.
RD...100%