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Strett said:
Unity of bloc crumbling over vaccine supplies.

Austria and Denmark break away from Brussels' vaccines strategy.
Austria and Denmark to go it alone after Slovakia, Poland, Hungary and Czech Republic negotiate for jabs outside of EU scheme

Austria and Denmark have become the latest EU countries to break away from Brussels' vaccines strategy, raising fears that the bloc's unity in the face of the coronavirus pandemic was crumbling.

Chancellor Sebastian Kurz on Monday night said that Austria would work with Israel and Denmark on second generation coronavirus vaccines and “no longer rely on the EU in the future”.

It is widely seen as a rebuke to the European Commission-led joint procurement scheme for vaccines, which has lagged far behind the UK, Israel and US, and involved negotiating for supplies as a bloc.

"We must therefore prepare for further mutations and should no longer be dependent only on the EU for the production of second-generation vaccines," he said.

Denmark's Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said that she had already bid for supplies of Israel’s leftover vaccines in another sign of the disintegrating confidence in Brussels to deliver the jabs.

Mr Kurz is due to travel with Ms Frederiksen to see Israel's rapid vaccine roll-out up close in a visit that will cause blushes in Brussels.

The European Commission's preference is for member states to stick to the joint approach because side deals sap the bloc’s negotiating power.

EU rules allow national governments to approve and buy vaccines which are not part of the joint scheme, such as the Russian Sputnik and Chinese vaccines.

Other EU leaders have already moved to secure national supplies of the vaccines rather than wait for the EU scheme, which involved countries negotiating as a bloc to drive down prices.

Andrej Babis, the Czech prime minister, said he would not wait for the EU regulator before buying Sputnik.

Hungary has already approved and bought Sputnik without waiting for the EU regulator and is also the first member state to approve the Chinese vaccine.

On Sunday, Viktor Orbán, the prime minister, posted a photo of himself being vaccinated by the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine. Budapest has bought 2m doses of Sputnik and 5m jabs of Sinopharm.

The authoritarian leader attacked the EU scheme in late February. “We’ve sought to do something together that we could have managed more successfully on an individual basis – take a look at the examples of Britain or Serbia,” he said.

Regional leaders in France said they would try and negotiate directly with pharmaceutical companies in January but have so far had no success.

Germany ordered 30 million extra doses of the Pfizer vaccine outside of the scheme in September. Berlin also has a separate order of 20m doses with CureVac.

“We have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts,” Ursula von der Leyen told reporters after news of the German side deals broke.

A commission spokesman said that the joint vaccine programme had not crumbled and warned that emergency authorisations of jabs at national level could be risky.

"It's not that the strategy unravelled," the spokesman said, "For our vaccines, we go through the European Medicines Agency because we want to ensure efficacy and safety. What member states do in addition to that, it's their responsibility."

The under-fire European Commission president has repeatedly defended the decision to negotiate as a bloc, despite a row following supply shortfalls from AstraZeneca.

She said the strategy ensured smaller member states had access to the jabs in the European Parliament in February.

She claimed it would have been “the end of our community”, if larger, richer countries had snapped up all the vaccines instead of securing them jointly as a Union.

Brussels has secured and authorised supplies of the Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca vaccines but the distribution of the jabs at national level have been slow.




Perhaps the good people of the sovereign nations of Europe are now realising why we left that hapless club called the EU.
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amazingly, i read that and thought this is why we should totally remain lol
 
Pearced said:
Hardly impressive when Canada with a little over half the population has donated $440 million (UK748 million) and the US (even under Trump!) $4 billion. How does this relate to the hoarding of vaccines? Covax is an additional programme for world vaccine availability. The money is committed but the vaccines aren't going out yet - or only minimally. Nice try though
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So , using your figures, relative to the populations of Canada and the US, we have done our fair share. The EU may be hoarding unused vaccines, but as far as I'm aware , ours seem to be being used. I guess some will have to be held back to ensure that the correct brand is available for second vaccinations, as we have now reached twelve weeks from the initial rollout on 8th December. No idea what the commercial terms are, but as I've said the AZ vaccine is also being manufactured in India , so something developed in the UK is being released (according to them at cost) for use in poorer countries. I think that's a really nice try !
 
Lienking said:
So , using your figures, relative to the populations of Canada and the US, we have done our fair share. The EU may be hoarding unused vaccines, but as far as I'm aware , ours seem to be being used. I guess some will have to be held back to ensure that the correct brand is available for second vaccinations, as we have now reached twelve weeks from the initial rollout on 8th December. No idea what the commercial terms are, but as I've said the AZ vaccine is also being manufactured in India , so something developed in the UK is being released (according to them at cost) for use in poorer countries. I think that's a really nice try !
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You are aware that India is the worlds biggest producer/manufacturer of all vaccines? Probably not. The vaccine being produced there was only a matter of time.

Nice try. You are like a baby learning how to walk for the first time.
 
Lienking said:
So , using your figures, relative to the populations of Canada and the US, we have done our fair share. The EU may be hoarding unused vaccines, but as far as I'm aware , ours seem to be being used. I guess some will have to be held back to ensure that the correct brand is available for second vaccinations, as we have now reached twelve weeks from the initial rollout on 8th December. No idea what the commercial terms are, but as I've said the AZ vaccine is also being manufactured in India , so something developed in the UK is being released (according to them at cost) for use in poorer countries. I think that's a really nice try !
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The UK has managed to get a fast rate of vaccination by the initial hoarding of the vaccines. Now they are ahead they may be a little less selfish about it. It remains to be seen how the rich countries deal with sharing with the poor nations as we go forward.
 
paz1967 said:
Nothing unconscious about it, id rather suffer in unity than win individually. Thats a very conscious way of life as a whole ;)

Id poss be kicking out a few nations tho, started with those very right wing corrupt ones like Hungary anyway haha
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And our fuckers too
 
radfordinlondon said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56262527

Just another teething problem. Wicked EU moaning on and about international law
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Not only that it's the EU for not solving a UK problem. If all else fails, and a lot has, blame the EU

Northern Ireland's First Minister Arlene Foster welcomed the move and said the EU had refused to deal with an issue that "would have caused a huge amount of problems for us at our ports".
 
Bremen Tree said:
You are aware that India is the worlds biggest producer/manufacturer of all vaccines? Probably not. The vaccine being produced there was only a matter of time.

Nice try. You are like a baby learning how to walk for the first time.
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Sorry, i dont understand the point that you are making?
 
Bremen Tree said:
Not only that it's the EU for not solving a UK problem. If all else fails, and a lot has, blame the EU

Northern Ireland's First Minister Arlene Foster welcomed the move and said the EU had refused to deal with an issue that "would have caused a huge amount of problems for us at our ports".
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Standard M.O. lmao and we thought brexit would at least mean the UK govt had to wash its own face- it seems no, you can keep blaming the EU in or out!!!
 
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