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National league North and South.

Feel sorry for teams like Dartford, who are top of their league and heading back to the National league for the fist time in a while. Apparently the majority of the National league South teams voted to continue playing, but they were outvoted by a greater majority in the North section who wanted to end the season.
 
Feel sorry for teams like Dartford, who are top of their league and heading back to the National league for the fist time in a while. Apparently the majority of the National league South teams voted to continue playing, but they were outvoted by a greater majority in the North section who wanted to end the season.

And you have the knock on right the way down the pyramid system!
 
There are plenty of pro and semi-pro players in the National League North (and South, I believe), feel for them. Those concerned with the NLN I sometimes watch (AFC Fylde) are devastated. They`ve had an unbelievable bad turn of events over the past year. So many excellent young players are plucked from the NL`s by EFL clubs; they provide a feeder system. The football authorities at Premier level have got plenty of dosh, it would have been good to see them help preserve the feeder system.
 
The following is a letter sent to the NL boss by NL (second tier) clubs:


Mr M Ives
General Manager
National League
4th Floor Waterloo House
Birmingham B2 5TB
19th February 2021
Dear Mr Ives,
Following the results of the voting on the National League resolutions dated 1 February 2021, we write to you on behalf of the clubs that voted to fulfil the 2020-21 National League North and South season.
We feel the options presented in the resolutions did not provide an alternative solution to a Null and Void scenario and the result of Resolution 3 was very closely divided with a very small majority determining that the season will be ended with immediate effect. However, as a league of members (66 clubs) the vote delivered a majority result in favour of continuing the season albeit you chose to adopt the four votes each rule for NLN and NLS as opposed to one each for the NL.
We believe that the 19 clubs at Step 2 that wish to continue, should be afforded an opportunity to do so, with playoffs and promotion, as per normal.
We believe the following reasons support the resumption of the 2020-21 National League North & South seasons:

  • Our feedback and experiences week to week leave us in little doubt that the majority of our communities and supporter base are under extreme strain within the current lockdown conditions. Looking forward to better times and more normality is a large part of keeping people positive. We believe that a Null and Void scenario would negatively impact the mental health of our supporters and communities.

  • Our supporters, season ticket holders and commercial partners have demonstrated a huge amount of goodwill and faith by retaining their season tickets and accepting that their interaction with their club will be remotely and digitally rather than what they signed up for and attending matches. A Null and Void season would require either substantial refunds or carrying over the commercial and ticketing revenue into next season. This would have a huge impact on future commercial revenues.

  • With the outcome of the vote being Null and Void in Step 2, the ability to have promotion and relegation between Steps 1 and 2 is lost. Promotion and Relegation within the National League system is a fundamental value which the league has worked hard for over the years and which was the motivating driver in reaching a sporting conclusion to last season. We feel it important for our relationship with the EFL that both promotion and relegation be retained at Step 1 and Step 2.

  • Last year, although the clubs voted to curtail the season, the playoffs and automatic promotion places were sanctioned, and we believe a similar approach should be adopted this season to maintain the integrity of the overall competition.

  • All clubs have accepted financial support from the National Lottery for the months of October, November and December and also FA grant funding in order to prepare and proceed with league matches behind closed doors. Those conditions remain and we feel we have an obligation to proceed and complete the season having already accepted that funding.

  • We have all invested considerable sums, by entering into contracts and taking on liabilities on the basis the season would progress to a full conclusion whether behind closed doors or not. How are we expected to now reconcile this investment and commitment? Numerous clubs are entering dialogue with Sport England regarding grant and loan funding to continue operating and are exploring every option to fulfil this season.
In summary, we respectfully request that the league strongly consider that the two divisions at Step 2 continue playing their seasons, either separately or as one.
We believe that this is in the best interests of all National League members allowing the league to cater to the needs and drivers of all clubs in a sympathetic manner, allowing those who wish to continue to do so, and those who cannot or do not wish to continue to end their season.
Promotion and relegation can be maintained between the National League and National League North and South in order to recover a full National League of 24 clubs next season, as well as maintaining the integrity of our relationship with the EFL.
Yours in Football,
AFC Fylde – David Haythornthwaite
Boston United – David Newton
Chelmsford City – Steve Shore
Chorley – Graham Watkinson
Concord Rangers – Antony Smith
Dartford – Dave Skinner and Steve Irving
Dorking Wanderers – Marc White
Eastbourne Borough – John Bonar and David Blackmore
Ebbsfleet United – Damian Irvine
Gloucester City – Alex Petheram
Havant and Waterloovile – Trevor Brock
Hemel Hempstead Town – Dave Boggins
Hungerford Town – Patrick Chambers
Kidderminster Harriers – Neil Male
Oxford City – Paul Lyon
St.Albans City – Lawrence Levy
Welling United – Mark Goldberg
York City – Jason Mcgill



Hope the communication finds some traction.
 
The following is a letter sent to the NL boss by NL (second tier) clubs:


Mr M Ives
General Manager
National League
4th Floor Waterloo House
Birmingham B2 5TB
19th February 2021
Dear Mr Ives,
Following the results of the voting on the National League resolutions dated 1 February 2021, we write to you on behalf of the clubs that voted to fulfil the 2020-21 National League North and South season.
We feel the options presented in the resolutions did not provide an alternative solution to a Null and Void scenario and the result of Resolution 3 was very closely divided with a very small majority determining that the season will be ended with immediate effect. However, as a league of members (66 clubs) the vote delivered a majority result in favour of continuing the season albeit you chose to adopt the four votes each rule for NLN and NLS as opposed to one each for the NL.
We believe that the 19 clubs at Step 2 that wish to continue, should be afforded an opportunity to do so, with playoffs and promotion, as per normal.
We believe the following reasons support the resumption of the 2020-21 National League North & South seasons:

  • Our feedback and experiences week to week leave us in little doubt that the majority of our communities and supporter base are under extreme strain within the current lockdown conditions. Looking forward to better times and more normality is a large part of keeping people positive. We believe that a Null and Void scenario would negatively impact the mental health of our supporters and communities.

  • Our supporters, season ticket holders and commercial partners have demonstrated a huge amount of goodwill and faith by retaining their season tickets and accepting that their interaction with their club will be remotely and digitally rather than what they signed up for and attending matches. A Null and Void season would require either substantial refunds or carrying over the commercial and ticketing revenue into next season. This would have a huge impact on future commercial revenues.

  • With the outcome of the vote being Null and Void in Step 2, the ability to have promotion and relegation between Steps 1 and 2 is lost. Promotion and Relegation within the National League system is a fundamental value which the league has worked hard for over the years and which was the motivating driver in reaching a sporting conclusion to last season. We feel it important for our relationship with the EFL that both promotion and relegation be retained at Step 1 and Step 2.

  • Last year, although the clubs voted to curtail the season, the playoffs and automatic promotion places were sanctioned, and we believe a similar approach should be adopted this season to maintain the integrity of the overall competition.

  • All clubs have accepted financial support from the National Lottery for the months of October, November and December and also FA grant funding in order to prepare and proceed with league matches behind closed doors. Those conditions remain and we feel we have an obligation to proceed and complete the season having already accepted that funding.

  • We have all invested considerable sums, by entering into contracts and taking on liabilities on the basis the season would progress to a full conclusion whether behind closed doors or not. How are we expected to now reconcile this investment and commitment? Numerous clubs are entering dialogue with Sport England regarding grant and loan funding to continue operating and are exploring every option to fulfil this season.
In summary, we respectfully request that the league strongly consider that the two divisions at Step 2 continue playing their seasons, either separately or as one.
We believe that this is in the best interests of all National League members allowing the league to cater to the needs and drivers of all clubs in a sympathetic manner, allowing those who wish to continue to do so, and those who cannot or do not wish to continue to end their season.
Promotion and relegation can be maintained between the National League and National League North and South in order to recover a full National League of 24 clubs next season, as well as maintaining the integrity of our relationship with the EFL.
Yours in Football,
AFC Fylde – David Haythornthwaite
Boston United – David Newton
Chelmsford City – Steve Shore
Chorley – Graham Watkinson
Concord Rangers – Antony Smith
Dartford – Dave Skinner and Steve Irving
Dorking Wanderers – Marc White
Eastbourne Borough – John Bonar and David Blackmore
Ebbsfleet United – Damian Irvine
Gloucester City – Alex Petheram
Havant and Waterloovile – Trevor Brock
Hemel Hempstead Town – Dave Boggins
Hungerford Town – Patrick Chambers
Kidderminster Harriers – Neil Male
Oxford City – Paul Lyon
St.Albans City – Lawrence Levy
Welling United – Mark Goldberg
York City – Jason Mcgill



Hope the communication finds some traction.

You still have the problem where the clubs who voted to end the season due to the financial situation! Clubs do not want to accept loans as they will not be able to pay the money back even when supporters are allowed back in!
 
You still have the problem where the clubs who voted to end the season due to the financial situation! Clubs do not want to accept loans as they will not be able to pay the money back even when supporters are allowed back in!

Yes, no easy fix. The letter writers would accept opting-in clubs from N & S to combine as one division. Leaving room for those who do not wish to continue to (temporarily) step-aside. The NL governing body don`t seem to have much of an eye for planning.
 
Dont think a joint league with north/south will happen? Also, can they really want promotion/play offs to go ahead when there is no chance the National League honestly finish the season despite deciding to carry on? Dover are not going to carry play again this season....should they be relegated for not fulfilling their fixtures?
 
Dont think a joint league with north/south will happen? Also, can they really want promotion/play offs to go ahead when there is no chance the National League honestly finish the season despite deciding to carry on? Dover are not going to carry play again this season....should they be relegated for not fulfilling their fixtures?

It is difficult to see anyway out of the mess, pressing ahead with annulment is more probable than not.