I do agree with you, but you don’t see that sort of thing if the managers standards are high enough. You’d never see those mistakes under a Warnock, and he’s hardly got a team of flair players.
I remember when Forest sacked Billy after back to back play off seasons - the team went from disciplined and good in possession to just plain dreadful under mcclaren, with all the mistakes you’re referring to despite it being generally the same team.
It has to be a training issue because if they are doing that, why isn’t he demanding they move the ball quicker.
you lost count at 2?
They finished 14th and that was a one off - this is every single week with Forest and we’re nearly in the relegation zone and should be if not for his awful other teams are.
We are never gonna survive chap unless we get a little bit crazy .I dont think it's a case of Hughton not having high standards or lack of discipline. Look at his records at his previous clubs - he wouldn't have had the success he's had if he wasn't demanding of his players.
I think it's still a case of him having walked into a car crash of a club with a squad that isn't as good as it looks on paper, and yes he is probably finding it a little tougher to turn around than he perhaps thought.
Remember there were some pretty dreadful performances and results early on for managers like Davies (1-3 at home to Derby, 5-1 at Burnley) and Karanka (0-3 at home to Preston).
It's still fairly early in CH's reign. As calamitous as today was, it shouldn't be forgotten that we've just come off the back of a relatively good run and started to slowly pull away from the bottom 3.
We can't just give managers 20 games and then get rid if they dont have us flying. People might be pissed off after today but if a new manager came in and started tearing strips off the players then it would pretty much seal our relegation.
We are never gonna survive chap unless we get a little bit crazy .
I dont think it's a case of Hughton not having high standards or lack of discipline. Look at his records at his previous clubs - he wouldn't have had the success he's had if he wasn't demanding of his players.
I think it's still a case of him having walked into a car crash of a club with a squad that isn't as good as it looks on paper, and yes he is probably finding it a little tougher to turn around than he perhaps thought.
Remember there were some pretty dreadful performances and results early on for managers like Davies (1-3 at home to Derby, 5-1 at Burnley) and Karanka (0-3 at home to Preston).
It's still fairly early in CH's reign. As calamitous as today was, it shouldn't be forgotten that we've just come off the back of a relatively good run and started to slowly pull away from the bottom 3.
We can't just give managers 20 games and then get rid if they dont have us flying. People might be pissed off after today but if a new manager came in and started tearing strips off the players then it would pretty much seal our relegation.
so you think Murray was the answer? Not youth and energy and something to prove, but a 37 yar old ex player of his. That SEALS his lack of modern day nouse to meI'd be happy if any of our signings in this window had the manager's SEAL of approval.
People give me stick for weed, what are you using, Ritalin?The scoreline is a bit irrelevant today as we were well in the game at 1-2. Away to one of the best sides in this division (on paper, and with both teams playing several reserves).
Once the ref gives that penalty and Smith guesses wrong, the game's over. If he'd guessed right and saved it we might have gone a lot closer or even won. Felt sorry for Smith - kept us in it in the first half and had little chance with the goals, apart from one which hit his leg and spun inside the post rather than going for a corner.
I don’t very often agree with Paz, but....People give me stick for weed, what are you using, Ritalin?
You do baffle me, Pebble. Every time we lose, or play shite, you come up with one of these type of posts. Surely even your glass can’t be half full after that.The scoreline is a bit irrelevant today as we were well in the game at 1-2. Away to one of the best sides in this division (on paper, and with both teams playing several reserves).
Once the ref gives that penalty and Smith guesses wrong, the game's over. If he'd guessed right and saved it we might have gone a lot closer or even won. Felt sorry for Smith - kept us in it in the first half and had little chance with the goals, apart from one which hit his leg and spun inside the post rather than going for a corner.
Agreed the penalty decision was an absolute joke probably a case of a premiership ref who normally has the safety net of VAR to correct decisions they get wrong, it was a shame because they had come out with a purpose and in theory were back in the game.The scoreline is a bit irrelevant today as we were well in the game at 1-2. Away to one of the best sides in this division (on paper, and with both teams playing several reserves).
Once the ref gives that penalty and Smith guesses wrong, the game's over. If he'd guessed right and saved it we might have gone a lot closer or even won. Felt sorry for Smith - kept us in it in the first half and had little chance with the goals, apart from one which hit his leg and spun inside the post rather than going for a corner.
Disagree that their reaction was that bad. Some, maybe - but the decision made a huge difference.Agreed the penalty decision was an absolute joke probably a case of a premiership ref who normally has the safety net of VAR to correct decisions they get wrong, it was a shame because they had come out with a purpose and in theory were back in the game.
The worrying thing is how the players allowed that decision to knock the stuffing out of them, when they should have said to themselves you're not going to cheat us out of it with decisions like that, rolled their sleeves up & really got stuck in, but instead they appeared to just give up. It's that lack of mental strength that is one of the main problems with this set of players any little setback they go to pieces,
Wine, but I have nothing against weed.People give me stick for weed, what are you using, Ritalin?
Far from it - but it was a cup game with a reserve side.You do baffle me, Pebble. Every time we lose, or play shite, you come up with one of these type of posts. Surely even your glass can’t be half full after that.