John Bigbooté
Vital Reserves Team
Intriguing "sort of" in what sense?
In the sense of sort of new.
Intriguing "sort of" in what sense?
In the sense of sort of new.
In a I-see-Notty-is-still-not-making-any-sense sense?
Does a super veto veto a veto?Yep I agree, but a lot seem to think it important - I just put a strategy down for how that might happen, eventually, with no immediate massive cost.
To be honest, all we need is the super veto, and sensible parameters for its use, but the knock-on of that is that you would need some sort of fans' organisation to wield it effectively. That I imagine would involved membership, which often involves money, which then raises the question, 'what do you do with it'?
Buying out the owner or gaining a fans' share of the club would seem to be the obvious answer.
Does a super veto veto a veto?
Vito Corleone kicks the arse of ickle DannyNo, but Danny DeVeto does.
Hello. New here. Well sort of.
Nationalisation is a no-go. I understand the 'community' argument but how perverse would it seem for a country to pay for a national football service when it can't properly fund a national health service, or even operate a national rail service?
Instant transfer of ownership to fans is unfeasible due to immediate expense. Just not going to happen. Instead, we need to play a long game, with a defined goal, and it would come in two parts.
1/ One piece of legislation passed to insist by law that all member clubs of the Premier League, Football League and National Leagues provide fans with an executive 'super veto' on matters of significance to the future of the club (I confess I've not thought about how these would be defined - but 'break away from English football and **** you buddy' would definitely be one of them).
2/ This super veto is backed by a one-person-one-vote fans forum, membership of which is open to any adult fan who pays a fee of say £10-£25 a season, and automatic for season ticket holders (with price increase included in ticket and ring-fenced for the next step). That fans forum votes on the use of the super veto should an issue arise.
Every year, the proceeds from forum membership are placed in an investment trust with the view to eventually buying a stake in the club, while the super veto keeps dodgy owners in line.
As an example, if 4,000 Lincoln City fans join the forum at £25 a season, the trust would contain £1 million (minus costs) in less than a decade. Not that we need to buy our club or save it - it's in the most competent hands I've seen in 40 years as a supporter.
Couldn't LCFC do this without the EFL or anyone else? The idea needs fleshing out, but if we want to bring fans in as a model for sustainability and fan ownership I'd love to see us do something that doesn't need the blessing of any EFL bigwigs that don't have LCFC interests at heart.
It's not really about the ownership model at our level or one club, it's about changing the model across the board and particularly for those top level clubs.
Couldn't LCFC do this without the EFL or anyone else? The idea needs fleshing out, but if we want to bring fans in as a model for sustainability and fan ownership I'd love to see us do something that doesn't need the blessing of any EFL bigwigs that don't have LCFC interests at heart.
It's not really about the ownership model at our level or one club, it's about changing the model across the board and particularly for those top level clubs.
Apologies if this has been posted before but I just saw it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56931186
Apologies if this has been posted before but I just saw it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56931186
Nice to see the demo at Old Trafford was mostly peaceful. When people have a well supported and genuinely popular cause why are there so many dick heads that just have to go and attract unnecessary negative attention to it.
Hint - You're winning the argument guys, why do you need to start a fight.