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Ultimately though, JC21 is right; it is caused by individuals with petrol bombs. We have had peace for nearly 25 years; but the desire to fight as part of a tribe is so ingrained in some that they have never accepted that. Whether the consequences of brexit have actually ignited people (someone more knowledgeable than me would have to tell me how) or has merely provided an excuse for people already committed to violence to do more, is surely open to debate.
The consequences of a vote either way in 2016 were far too vast and unpredictable for even the experts to understand, let alone a member of the public
We were told we should vote leave to support our fishermen. Full disclosure; I didn't give a shit about fishermen, and I voted remain in full cogniscence of that. I didn't give a shit about Mr Farage's notion of sovereignty either. Our voted were as much about what we didn't give a shit about as what we did; leave voters didn't give two figs for my desire to be allowed to live and work abroad.
There is no way we can pin northern Ireland on Brexit voters; it was for the politicians to sort out 100%. That Johnson didn't give a shit about NI in his dealmaking (in contrast to May) was one of the reasons he was able to get his risible deal
I'm sorry but this is just wrong. The first part of this post.
I see it all the time. Using individual responsibility to rationalise terrible decision making on a wider societal level.
The example I would use is if police in one area of the UK came out and said they were no longer going to arrest people for burglary, and burgling went up 800%. You can blame the individuals responsible, because they are the burglars, but you can also blame the police for their actions which were ultimately the cause of the burglaries.
Everybody said that Brexit was going to cause issues in Ireland, and ultimately, Brexit is the cause of the issues we are seeing right now. There is a clear chain of cause and effect. You can pretend it doesn't exist if you want to and blame the individual, but that is to simply ignore half the story.
When it comes to Johnson's risible deal, why do you think he was willing to accept such a terrible deal? Because brexit voters would accept nothing less and he is a serial panderer. It was the electoral maths. He was giving the people what they wanted, so logically, what the people wanted has resulted in the current violence.
Am I blaming Brexit voters? Well, partly. Its mostly the politicians, so we're in agreement on that, but saying that people aren't responsible for the consequences of their votes? Nah, sorry I'm not with you on that at all.